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I would also like to piggyback off of this question and ask if it would be safe to spray paint my HDD's black, will it get into the platters is i spray the top?
Oh yeah, I forgot about the HDD. I assume it's fine.

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man, u callin my pc a mac?? you son of...lol
If it's white from the outside.. yeah
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this is risky business, i would buy a very very cheap computer on craigslist for < $50 and then paint the mobo and such. Definitely dont go straight to expensive parts. If you do this and it works, build-log is a must. Good Luck!
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Water based/acrylic paint isn't actually like pouring water on your motherboard, nor is it conductive (unless it was designed to be conductive and combined with something like copper). It simply means the binder can be dissolved by water, which is more important during the painting processes rather than after dried. What video card do you have exactly, the ones in your sig? Most of the time, the hot VRM's that need to be cooled are on the front side of the card under the heatsink rather than on the back, since the back isn't cooled. It's usually resistors and capacitors on the back, maybe the voltage controller but that doesn't actually regulate the voltage and generate significant heat.

The reason I say don't paint contact points is because it will result in it being unable to actually function. Painting the pins on RAM would render it useless since it wouldn't actually be able to contact with the pins.

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I would also like to piggyback off of this question and ask if it would be safe to spray paint my HDD's black, will it get into the platters is i spray the top?
If you want to paint the drive, make sure you find the vent hole and cover that during painting, it's very important since paint can clog the vent hole as well as the pins on the SATA connector.
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Check out the RAM mod in my sig. They had heatspreaders though. Still work to this day.
    
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Wow, thank you.

So, basically, you're saying that any conductive item, such as pins, cannot be painted? Isn't there such a thing as conductive paint, so I could paint absolutely everything?

What about the back of the graphics card and the motherboard in all - I am afraid that painting the little chips, controllers, VRM, etc. will actually cause it to either not perform as well, get hotter.

I'm also afraid that using water/acrylic-based paints would be like pouring water over the components.

Maybe I should buy a super-cheap motherboard and graphics card off eBay and see if they still work after spraying.

I do intend on selling the motherboard once Ivy Bridge comes out and upgrading.. do you think it will cheapen the value or heighten it?

Lastly, if I can't paint the body of the heatsink, it won't really look the same - is there absolutely no way? Maybe I should get a H100 and paint that..
There is conductive paint but if you spray it on something like the mobo you're going to short it out instantly. Non conductive is the way to go. Parts like slots and such should be left alone.

The heatsink can be made white by just painting the top or painting the fan white. Paint is not nearly as good with heat transfer so painting it kills the performance. Painting the top and maybe around the edges might do but still seems like you could lose 20%+ performance from doing so.

Or something like the CM V6/V8 would be fine to paint the plastic part which is the majority.
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post #16 of 29
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Water based/acrylic paint isn't actually like pouring water on your motherboard, nor is it conductive (unless it was designed to be conductive and combined with something like copper). It simply means the binder can be dissolved by water, which is more important during the painting processes rather than after dried. What video card do you have exactly, the ones in your sig? Most of the time, the hot VRM's that need to be cooled are on the front side of the card under the heatsink rather than on the back, since the back isn't cooled. It's usually resistors and capacitors on the back, maybe the voltage controller but that doesn't actually regulate the voltage and generate significant heat.

The reason I say don't paint contact points is because it will result in it being unable to actually function. Painting the pins on RAM would render it useless since it wouldn't actually be able to contact with the pins.


If you want to paint the drive, make sure you find the vent hole and cover that during painting, it's very important since paint can clog the vent hole as well as the pins on the SATA connector.

No, I meant the capacitors on the motherboard.

And is there really no way to paint the heatsinks? Is there any other way to make them look white?

I remember the black version of the TRUE - if that's possible, why isn't white?
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There is conductive paint but if you spray it on something like the mobo you're going to short it out instantly. Non conductive is the way to go. Parts like slots and such should be left alone.

The heatsink can be made white by just painting the top or painting the fan white. Paint is not nearly as good with heat transfer so painting it kills the performance. Painting the top and maybe around the edges might do but still seems like you could lose 20%+ performance from doing so.

Or something like the CM V6/V8 would be fine to paint the plastic part which is the majority.
So, non-conductive paint. How do I tell?

Thermal paint - how do I tell?

If I just just a brush and paint the outside of the fins, would that really cause 20% inefficiency? It's less than 1/100 of the total heatsink.
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No, I meant the capacitors on the motherboard.

And is there really no way to paint the heatsinks? Is there any other way to make them look white?

I remember the black version of the TRUE - if that's possible, why isn't white?
Capacitors are fine to paint. I mean don't paint any contact points such as the pins in a PCI-E slot or pins in a fan header.

If you really want to paint the heatsink I'd only suggest going as far as the edge of each fin. If you paint the fins on the inside it will kill cooling efficiency. To paint only the edge, put the heatsink in a bucket of sand and then level it off against the heatsink so only the edge is exposed. Hold the spray can kind of far away and spray it lightly. That will get only the edge and maybe only small exposure on the fin. (Never saw this done before, just invented this in my head lol).

The black TRUE wasn't actually painted black, it was plated with a dark nickel.

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So, non-conductive paint. How do I tell?

Thermal paint - how do I tell?

If I just just a brush and paint the outside of the fins, would that really cause 20% inefficiency? It's less than 1/100 of the total heatsink.
Most paint when dried should unless marked specifically as conductive since they add special substances into the mix to make it conductive. Thermally resistant paint will be very apparent as it is marked as high temp paint or something similar. If you are not sure if a paint is conductive, coat it with a thin layer of clear coat first. Test it on cardboard to ensure that the white spray coat after will bind.

If you paint just the edges of the fins the effect should be minimal since air doesn't flow over the edges. It's actually a lot less than 1/100 of the heatsink .

Did you intend to use spray paint or liquid brush on paint?
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Capacitors are fine to paint. I mean don't paint any contact points such as the pins in a PCI-E slot or pins in a fan header.

If you really want to paint the heatsink I'd only suggest going as far as the edge of each fin. If you paint the fins on the inside it will kill cooling efficiency. To paint only the edge, put the heatsink in a bucket of sand and then level it off against the heatsink so only the edge is exposed. Hold the spray can kind of far away and spray it lightly. That will get only the edge and maybe only small exposure on the fin. (Never saw this done before, just invented this in my head lol).

The black TRUE wasn't actually painted black, it was plated with a dark nickel.



Most paint when dried should unless marked specifically as conductive since they add special substances into the mix to make it conductive. Thermally resistant paint will be very apparent as it is marked as high temp paint or something similar. If you are not sure if a paint is conductive, coat it with a thin layer of clear coat first. Test it on cardboard to ensure that the white spray coat after will bind.

If you paint just the edges of the fins the effect should be minimal since air doesn't flow over the edges. It's actually a lot less than 1/100 of the heatsink .

Did you intend to use spray paint or liquid brush on paint?
I think I understand.

Actually, I had a better idea for the fins. Instead of burrying it, I could just use a brush. I just hope it will look white enough.

Just to confirm - conductive paint bad, even on things that are supposed to be conductive because they aren't supposed to be painted ever?
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I think I understand.

Actually, I had a better idea for the fins. Instead of burrying it, I could just use a brush. I just hope it will look white enough.

Just to confirm - conductive paint bad, even on things that are supposed to be conductive because they aren't supposed to be painted ever?
Conductive paint will bridge connections that shouldn't be bridged, that's why it should never be used on electronic circuits as a coating. It would be like covering your board in conductive water, and unremovable. Contacts should never be painted, it would hinder the connection.

Maybe a roller brush would do good for painting your heatsink edges.
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