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I never buy Ubisoft games at launch anymore. I have a bunch of other games to play anyway.
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Originally Posted by ilam3d View Post
Why do companies keep trying on DRM? Even if they make the perfect DRM it wont make more people buy it. I think they spend more money on DRM than they actually get from people buying those due to not being able to pirate.

But it might be some economics silly concept, something like "projected sales + projected pirates stopped by drm + drm raises the projected sales" even though it makes no sense. But economics have never made sense.
Somebody in the comments section of Tom's had a good theory:

They say the DRM is there to prevent pirating, but really it's to make sure there's no second hand market.

That sounds like a good one to me.
 
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Somebody in the comments section of Tom's had a good theory:

They say the DRM is there to prevent pirating, but really it's to make sure there's no second hand market.

That sounds like a good one to me.


When I read that, something it me head clicked. It all makes sense now. They know they can't stop piracy, but that's not even the reason for having DRM.
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They got one thing right. They successfully made sure I won't buy their garbage anymore.

Rainbow Six, Ghost Recon, Splinter Cell franchises all went down the drain because of these guys. I can't recall buying anything from them recently. The company can die for all I care.
    
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Where is your evidence?

Has anyone at Ubisoft hinted at this? Has there been a recent example?
Why would a company ever hint this, true or not? Also I loled so hard when the guy with the Steve Jobs avatar said this.

I don't have any concrete proof. I'd need internal emails or something to find such evidence. But it is the only conclusion I can come to as to why they would set up a system so hated and troubling, even though piracy continues to blast them. Plus all the extra money they spend running those servers for the life of the game, developing the software. It just doesn't add up to being a mere anti-piracy scheme.
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Somebody in the comments section of Tom's had a good theory:

They say the DRM is there to prevent pirating, but really it's to make sure there's no second hand market.

That sounds like a good one to me.
There was never a second-hand PC game market in the first place.
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There was never a second-hand PC game market in the first place.
Oh yes there was. You may be too young to have experienced it, but back in the early 90's there were used PC games avaiable. You just had to make sure you got the manual, or whatever the validation method was at the time (answer wheel, disk in drive).
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People whine about Ubisoft's DRM but bless Steam which has one of the mot strict DRM you can find anywhere. Even yesterday I was trying to play Europa Universalis III but my connection dropped, Steam kept "updating", when I canceled and tried to use the offline mode, Steam would say that it failed to connect to the network, no **** Sherlock. Tried to reboot the system 5 times and open and closed Steam numerous times, to no avail. Had to wait an hour for my connection to come back.

Offline mode works when it wants but everyone's perfectly fine with it. And that's not even talking about how Steam makes it a nightmare to use mods on some older games.
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People whine about Ubisoft's DRM but bless Steam which has one of the mot strict DRM you can find anywhere. Even yesterday I was trying to play Europa Universalis III but my connection dropped, Steam kept "updating", when I canceled and tried to use the offline mode, Steam would say that it failed to connect to the network, no **** Sherlock. Tried to reboot the system 5 times and open and closed Steam numerous times, to no avail. Had to wait an hour for my connection to come back.

Offline mode works when it wants but everyone's perfectly fine with it. And that's not even talking about how Steam makes it a nightmare to use mods on some older games.
Judging by the way you defend UBI to pretty much no end and then now start talking about your supposed bad experiences with Steam out of nowhere, you have to either work for UBI or be one of their biggest fanboys. I'm leaning towards the former.

So there are issues when you try to launch a game in the middle of an update - big surprise. I've never had an issue with offline mode, and I bet pretty much everyone else would vouch the same way. At least we can play our games offline and where we want to.
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It wasn't in the middle of an update at all, its just that Steam is always "updating" when you try to launch it without being connected to the network. Oh and if you think offline mode is perfect and no one has issues with it, just try the Steam forums or search "Steam offline mode" on Google, you'll see there's plenty of people having issues with it.

As for me being a Ubisoft fanboy I don't know how I could be one as I own very few games from them, I used to like them a lot in the Splinter Cell/Prince of Persia era but since then I haven't really noticed what they released, except for the first Assasin's Creed that I own. Their DRM is BS but isn't the nemesis that people here try to make it sounds like, and people only use it as excuses for piracy.

There is no excuses for piracy, if you want to steal a game do it but don't make it sounds like it's a moral act, it's like the people looting in London right now and coming up for excuses because they can't admi they're scumbags.
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