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Tried loosening round trip latency on the memory channels?
please explain?
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i guess i'll just have to deal with 1.344 @ 4.5ghz since giving it more vcore is the only way to make it stable with that specific FFT
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i guess i'll just have to deal with 1.344 @ 4.5ghz since giving it more vcore is the only way to make it stable with that specific FFT
Are you able to post all of your settings? May help us identify something that can be improved.
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please explain?
Round trip latency is a fairly crucial sub timing related to the overall delay from IMC to memory and back. It's dependent on trace length, clock speeds, and other timings. Some boards set it too aggressively.

Finding out what the auto values are and then increasing them by 1 or 2 cycles can sometimes help with memory or IMC instability.
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When you're this stuck the best thing to do is to say "screw it" and start from scratch. Restore all settings to stock and try again from the bottom. It took me a few tries to get an optimized OC on my system.

Here were my settings for 4.5Ghz at 1.296v load and 0.944v idle. May help give you a start.

BCLK: 100
Turbo: 45
Internal PLL Overvoltage: Disabled - Don't usually need this until 4.7Ghz+
CPU Power Saving Mode: Disabled
Load Line Calibration: Ultra High
VRM Frequency: Manual - 350
Phase Control: Extreme
Duty Control: T.Probe
CPU Current Capability: 100%
CPU Voltage: Offset Mode
CPU Offset Voltage: -0.50
DRAM Voltage: 1.65v (My ram is rated for 1.65v, change it for whatever your ram is)
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.7v

Intel Adaptive Monitor and Enhanced Speedstep Technology are enabled. C1E, C3, C6 are set to auto.
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post #16 of 47
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everything is set to auto/default, ill try list everything here:

vccio 1.050
vccsa 0.925
pll 1.8
vcore offset -0.15
ram 1.5v, (timings set at 9-9-9-24-2T) 1600mhz, secondary/rest are all auto
LLC ultra high
phase control -optimized,
cpu overcurrent 130%
c1e on, speedstep on,
c3 off c6 off
no spread spectrums

cpu-z load reports 1.344v (this is needed to pass that 1344 FFT), idle "max" is 1.36v, idle is 0.992

if i notch the voltage down 1, it will bsod on a 1344 FFT, but i can bump it down about 4 notches and it will still pass intelburntest 50 runs,

ive upped/downed almost every voltage, changed every setting , ram, voltage, LLC, and 1344 FFT fails unless the voltage is above 1.344, yet i can pass IBT no problems when it's at 1.31v (and the other FFT's pass fine too)

why does 1344 need so much voltage to be stable
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post #17 of 47
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Originally Posted by Roksonixx View Post
everything is set to auto/default, ill try list everything here:

vccio 1.050
vccsa 0.925
pll 1.8
vcore offset -0.15
ram 1.5v, (timings set at 9-9-9-24-2T) 1600mhz, secondary/rest are all auto
LLC ultra high
phase control -optimized,
cpu overcurrent 130%
c1e on, speedstep on,
c3 off c6 off
no spread spectrums

cpu-z load reports 1.344v (this is needed to pass that 1344 FFT), idle "max" is 1.36v, idle is 0.992

if i notch the voltage down 1, it will bsod on a 1344 FFT, but i can bump it down about 4 notches and it will still pass intelburntest 50 runs,

ive upped/downed almost every voltage, changed every setting , ram, voltage, LLC, and 1344 FFT fails unless the voltage is above 1.344, yet i can pass IBT no problems when it's at 1.31v (and the other FFT's pass fine too)

why does 1344 need so much voltage to be stable
It only makes sense to need 1.344v on test 1344 I do find it very weird that you're getting a BSOD instead of just having the test fail... What BSOD code are you getting? Certain problems cause certain crashes which can help you identify the cause. 0x109 means your DRAM voltage has problems, 0x101 means you may need more vcore, etc.
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post #18 of 47
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It only makes sense to need 1.344v on test 1344 I do find it very weird that you're getting a BSOD instead of just having the test fail... What BSOD code are you getting? Certain problems cause certain crashes which can help you identify the cause. 0x109 means your DRAM voltage has problems, 0x101 means you may need more vcore, etc.
yeah quite a coincidence isn't it,

i mostly get 124, which ive read is vcore/ram/vccio, but i've tried increasing ram and vccio and i still get a 124, so i increase vcore and it goes away...

i have gotten a few 101's but it's rare

sometimes the test does fail, and sometimes i get a bsod,

settings in prime are: 1344 fft, 3000ram, 4 threads, 2x15 minute runs, if vcore isn't enough it fails on the 2nd or 3rd test, if it is enough it gets well beyond 10 test
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i just tried your -0.5 offset and passed the 3rd test, where i'd fail on a -0.2 offset,

what...the ... ****?

i failed after 5 tests, but that's a hell of a lot longer than with an extra 0.03 volts
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i just tried your -0.5 offset and passed the 3rd test, where i'd fail on a -0.2 offset,

what...the ... ****?

i failed after 5 tests, but that's a hell of a lot longer than with an extra 0.03 volts
Was the offset voltage the only thing you changed or did you also change some other things?
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