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Hi all. I have a Q9300 with 8 gb of Gskill DDR2 ram in it. I never manually set the timings. These are on a Asus P5kC mobo and in a Antec Sonata III case (500w PSU).

My problem is that lately I have been having random stuttering of videos located on the HD. I also have extremely long windows load times at bootup. I tried swapping out ram and problem persisted. I tried putting HD in a different case (one in my signature) and everything seemed to work fine...for awhile. now I get freezing at windows desktop immediatley upon windows finishing loading. I tried swapping video cards and updating drivers...but problem persists.

I think it is either a RAM issue or a PSU issue.

My PSU was originally built for a computer using an 8600gt gpu, 4 gb of ram and minimal periphereals. I now have a 5770 gpu, many USB periphereals and 8gb of ram. everything was working fine until this past week. Is my PSU dying? Is my ram timing wrong (if so, why no issues until now)?

I also tried swapping out sata cables and pluggin into different headers but still getting freezing issues.

My HD is now in my sig rig and is working fine. The original computer (the one the problems are following) has a different hard drive in it and was working fine but is now experienceing the freezing issue. I'm currently running memtest 86+ on it.

I'm really thinking it is a failing a PSU but am not sure. Thoughts?
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Are you sure the source video isn't crappy?
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What is pointing you towards the PSU? I dont see that.

You say, that windows was freezing. Is it a BSOD? If yes, there should be an error message, an event log, with a driver, or something named. This should be the first thing to investigate.

It also could be a MB issue. Maybe some defective blown caps, around the CPU socket, or DIMMs?
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post #4 of 13
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I'm only thinking PSU because I have added so many more things to my cpu since the original sytem. Wacom Tablet, more ram, bigger gpu, USB card readers, calibration devices, extra BDR drive, extra HD.

I receive no BSOD. My cpu locks up completely at the windows desktop. Mouse doesn't work. Tried GPU in another case and mobo and worked fine.

I did have issues with my case awhile back where the front USB slot would short the whole system and the cpu would instantly turn off.

Does it not sound like a PSU issue despite the additional components added?
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post #5 of 13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by this n00b again View Post
Are you sure the source video isn't crappy?
Not just one video does it...all videos located on Hard drive as well as BFBC2 is unplayable
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It could be a ton of things. What anti-virus are you using? If it is running a scan in the background, it can take up too many resources and cause video stutter.

How long has this been going on? Did you update drivers for your Video Card shortly before this happened? Have you tried a System Restore to roll back to before this started, or was that too long ago?

When you benchmark your video card, does it perform as well as it should?

Personally, I'd suspect a video card driver issue (even if you haven't done anything with the drivers in a long time, or even if they're freshly installed). Here's what I'd do.

Uninstall the video card drivers in Device Manager.
Download the latest drivers
Use Driver Sweeper to clear out the remaining video card driver files
Run CCleaner to get rid of temp files
Run CCleaner on the Registry to get rid of any references to driver files
Reboot into Safe Mode
Install new drivers
Reboot and test.

EDIT Just saw your updated post. I still don't think it's a PSU problem. If you want to verify the PSU, then use a multimeter and backprobe the 24 pin power plug on the motherboard. There should be a sticker on your PSU telling you what voltages are on what color wires. I'd also backprobe the power connections to your video card.
Edited by Razinhail - 8/9/11 at 10:58am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MAKATTACK View Post
I'm only thinking PSU because I have added so many more things to my cpu since the original sytem. Wacom Tablet, more ram, bigger gpu, USB card readers, calibration devices, extra BDR drive, extra HD.

I receive no BSOD. My cpu locks up completely at the windows desktop. Mouse doesn't work. Tried GPU in another case and mobo and worked fine.

I did have issues with my case awhile back where the front USB slot would short the whole system and the cpu would instantly turn off.

Does it not sound like a PSU issue despite the additional components added?
Not really. If its a PSU issue, it would restart itself without a log entry, not just freeze. (btw, you could still have an event log entry, if no BSOD is shown)

(I have that USB problem too, on my stacker One of the 6 case front usb-s is causing artifacts on the screen, if i plug in anything As if the VGA would not get enough power, because of some sort of electrical problem. As soon as i pull out, the artifacts go away, and normal operation continues...)
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post #8 of 13
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All, I tried the gpu in a different machine and it works fine. I tried updating video drivers with no success. BTW, I ran memtest and let it run. It took all night. When I came home from work and checked it, all I had was a black screen. Its as if the computer went to sleep but never woke up yet I heard the fans spinning like the cpu was still working on something...
Had to restart. Same problem. How do I tell what the tests on my ram revealed if I never really know if it finished or not?
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Problem is, I can't even boot into windows to view the event log.... It has been slow booting up for some time now...not just recently. The video stuttering really made the computer unusable and when I restarted it to try and fix any issues, that is when it started taking even longer to boot up...like 10 minutes. I have multiple external harddrives. Everything was unplugged and still had freezing issues and long boot times...
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post #10 of 13
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One last thing. Since I now have a new HD in the problem computer...shouldl I dl all the latest drivers (BIOS, chipset, etc) for my mobo or will windows recognize the new hardware automatically and install everything for me?
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