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Thread Starter 
I'm looking to overhaul my computer and invest in something more up to date and faster than what I'm running now. Processors have changed so much lately that it's overwhelming.

My current system:
AMD 6000+ 3.0 ghz X2 64
4 GB DDR2 800
2 320gb SATA II HDDs on Stripe RAID
600w PSU
Biostar TF8200
GeForce 260 GTX

I'll be keeping my HDDs, GPU and PSU for now. I've no favoritism between AMD or Intel, I just want the best performing CPU for no more than $150.

I run emulators that don't fully support Quads playing my old sega and snes games and also have older games and software that aren't programmed for multicore processing so I'm guessing it would be in my best interest to stick with Dual core? I think?

<$150 CPU budget, I have a few choices. The AMD 565 seems to be the fastest x2 on Newegg.com for $108 coming in at 3.4 ghz and then there are some comparable i3s and Core2 Duos for about $20 or $30 more which have Hyperthreading and more cache. Lower clock speeds tho so I duno.

What processor would give me the best bang for my buck? Stick with Dual Core or go Quad? Any input would be awesome. Thanks all!
post #2 of 8
what is your motherboard budget? what is your RAM budget, or are you looking to reuse that too?
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Thread Starter 
Thanks for the reply. Since I don't do overclocking and have no need of extra bells and whistles, $100 MB seems satisfactory and has support for USB 3 and SATA 6 gbps. I'll be upgrading my RAM as well for around the same probably around $80 to $100. DDR3 2133 or so. Will be okay with 4 GB to get me started until I save up some dough for more. Gskill has ripjaws for 55 dolla and would prolly do alright until I upgrade it.
post #4 of 8
OK, do you live near a microcenter? That will help determining CPU prices. When do you plan on purchasing this, can you wait a month to see what Bulldozer will do? Seems you've waited a while, what's one more month

I can tell you one thing, it would be hard to recommend either a core2duo, or a phenom II as a new build in 2011.
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No microcenters here. I'm out in the boonies. I suppose I COULD wait another month lol And I kinda figured core2 duos were getting some age. I don't know much about this bulldozer project. Isn't that CPU more for graphics? I read up on it a little bit and it sounded to me like a CPU that doubles as a GPU and having an independent GPU it just doesn't sound like I could benefit from the bulldozer, unless I misunderstood what I read.
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Originally Posted by gemini9 View Post
No microcenters here. I'm out in the boonies. I suppose I COULD wait another month lol And I kinda figured core2 duos were getting some age. I don't know much about this bulldozer project. Isn't that CPU more for graphics? I read up on it a little bit and it sounded to me like a CPU that doubles as a GPU and having an independent GPU it just doesn't sound like I could benefit from the bulldozer, unless I misunderstood what I read.
Ahh, yeah, I see you updated your location to eastern md, that is out in the boonies. I live in Frederick, MD, which is also kind of in the boonies, but is about 30-40 minutes from the Microcenter down in Rockville, so it's not bad. They usually have good deals on the Intel CPU's, and AMD mobo bundles that end up saving you quite a bit over newegg, or tigerdirect.

I drive out to salisbury for work sometimes, so I know how boring the drive is too. Haha.

Honestly I would wait for AMD's Bulldozer to drop to see if it lives up to the hype. I think you were reading up on llano, AMD's APU, which has integrated GPU. Bulldozer is their new 32nm CPU line, they are bringing back the "FX", and it is the first new architecture they have released in 10 years.

Their flagship FX-8150, or 8170 has 8 "cores" whichever is available at release (I haven't looked at a roadmap lately) will probably be around $300 tho, so a bit more than you were looking at.

They will have other offerings though in a 4, and 6 core variant, and those will probably be in your price range, and will hopefully still stomp phenom II's into the ground, and give SandyBridge a run for it's money.

If not, I'd recommend a Sandybridge CPU + mobo, the price/peformance you get is great, especially considering it's Intel. If you do decide on Sandybridge, it would probably be worth the drive to microcenter, because their CPU's are usually $30-40 cheaper, and they have a Intel deal if you buy a qualifying i-series CPU, they knock $40 off your motherboard, bringing the p67 mobo's into your price range.

For example, since you don't want to overclock, all you need is the i5 2400, and a descent mobo, I chose gigabyte p67 board, it has a $20 MIR to compensate for tax:



If you wanted to OC at some point in the future, you could go with a i5 2500K, and something like the asrock P67 Extreme4, it'd come out to about $50 more without rebate.

Here's a link for that bundle promo: MC Intel deal

Hope that helps for a couple ideas.

If you don't think you want to wait for BD, and want OK performance, and a 2 year old platform MC does have good AMD bundles too.
Edited by anubis1127 - 8/9/11 at 6:11pm
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Thread Starter 
Pretty cool that you live nearby. I'm between Cumberland and Oakland so I'm in the middle of nowhere. I don't think the Bulldozer would be right for me because of the number of cores. Software still hasn't come up to par with the number of cores utilized. And as I mentioned above, I run allot of older games that can only use one core so getting a 4 or 6 core processor might not be best for me. I was looking more at the i3 processors and there's a clarkdale and Sandy Bridge. What's the difference?
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Originally Posted by gemini9 View Post
Pretty cool that you live nearby. I'm between Cumberland and Oakland so I'm in the middle of nowhere. I don't think the Bulldozer would be right for me because of the number of cores. Software still hasn't come up to par with the number of cores utilized. And as I mentioned above, I run allot of older games that can only use one core so getting a 4 or 6 core processor might not be best for me. I was looking more at the i3 processors and there's a clarkdale and Sandy Bridge. What's the difference?
Right on, you are out in the middle of nowhere, I guess that'd be western MD

I mean honestly just for running emulators and old software, yeah you're wouldn't really need a quad core, but if you did decide to play a modern game, a lot of the newer ones are utilizing multi-cores more efficiently.

For the $50 extra bucks I think it'd be worth getting the i5 2400, since you don't want to OC, it runs at the same clock speed as the i3 2100, and you get 2 extra cores.

Either way a i3 is going to be faster than the phenom II x2 you posted in the OP.

Windows obviously multitasks better with a quad core too.

With the i3 cpu's the Clarkdale one is a socket 1156, and the sandy bridge is socket 1155. Both are built using 32nm process, but the clarkdale can OC like mad, while the sandy bridge isn't designed for OC, but has a better architecture. So clock for clock the sandy bridge one would perform better, but the clarkdale could OC to surpass the sandy bridge.

Socket 1156 is pretty much dead, if you went with a clarkdale i3 you'd be limited for a future upgrade, you'd be able to put a quad core clarkdale, or lynnfield in, like my i7-870, and you would probably have to buy it used. If you go with sandy bridge i3, you could still get a descent p67 board, and then at some point down the road if you wanted to drop a i5 2500k, or i7 2600k in you could.
Edited by anubis1127 - 8/10/11 at 5:48am
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