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Once again, I ask are you employed or self-employed? I doubt your employer would be cool with you deciding to go against the employers standard tools. I've asked to run Linux and use Aptana Studio, but that's not something they want to have to support.
I answered your question with an edit. And yes my employer uses visual studio 2010 and notepad++. I do code some XML
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I answered your question with an edit. And yes my employer uses visual studio 2010 and notepad++. I do code some XML
Cool. As for XML, what do you mean code XML? I hope you don't mean manually. I'm guessing you use Java or PHP to generate XML, right? Or do you transform XML with XSL(T)?
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I think you guys posted some solid advice for any beginner thinking about picking up coding! However, you lost me in the discussion of xml since I don't know what what means.

Any recommendations on reliable cheap hosting? $5-6 a month? Or is that cablevision freebee all I need?

Thanks!

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you can use a free hosting
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Ok, your answers have been a bit scattered, let me try and clear some stuff up for you.

Hosting
I use Inmotion Hosting. You can get a business-class package for $6 a month. Unlimited bandwidth/storage, e-mail accounts, everything, and includes 2 MySQL databases for when you start getting into more dynamic websites. For $8 basically everything's the same except you get 50 MySQL databases. I heartily recommend them. Wouldn't try free hosting. I've used 0000free.com, but it's run by one guy and the downtime is horrendous.

Alternatively, use the local solution I provide in the second edit if you just want a development server. For a professional website that you'll want people to see, Inmotion for your hosting needs and GoDaddy to purchase your domain name.

Books
I learned web design with two books and the internet. First book: HeadFirst HTML with CSS & XHTML. I read through every single page of it, it teaches you good coding practices, all the different types of CSS layouts, and hands-on coding experience with their practice websites. It is a solid book. When I finished, I just made many, many random websites, testing new things out, Googling stuff I didn't know, adapting code, and now I can pretty much build anything I can envision in my head. Make sure you migrate over to HTML5 after you're done with the book though. Just about the only change is the DOCTYPE, everything else stays the same, but you get to use all the special HTML5 tags and stuff. The book is good for teaching you the coding practices.

I wouldn't really bother with flash. Flaky mobile support, and you won't need it for a typical website. Most basic animations etc. can be accomplished with Javascript/jQuery.

PHP and MySQL is an integral part of web design. You will need them to get to the next level in web design. For that, I read the first 100 pages of HeadFirst PHP & MySQL, and I was on my way. The rest is Google, and make sure to read a couple articles on securing PHP scripts.

I recommend you learn Javascript (and libraries like jQuery) last. Once you've got the fundamentals down, you can work on the bells and whistles this language provides.


Good luck, and if you ever need any help, tips, anything, feel free to shoot me a PM

-crazyap7

EDIT: Oh, and like the others said, those books you have are paper weights. Always try and keep up with the latest standards. And learn about IE-specific stylesheets, that browser is always a designer's worst nightmare.

EDIT2: Final thing I started doing everything on plain old notepad. Then when I needed PHP/MySQL, I got the hosting, and wrote everything in cPanel edit utility (it's just like notepad, except you're editing directly on the server rather than locally on your computer, so you don't need to upload all the time). Best thing I ever did was install Apache (an HTML server) on my local hard drive, and then install PHP and MySQL on top of that, and use Notepad++ to edit. So much faster and useful. Basically your computer becomes a little miniature server that can serve up dynamic webpages on your local computer.
And please don't use a WYSIWYG editor like Dreamweaver when you start, that's cheap, lazy, and you won't learn the proper coding techniques.
Edited by crazyap7 - 8/10/11 at 9:12am
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EDIT2: Final thing I started doing everything on plain old notepad. Then when I needed PHP/MySQL, I got the hosting, and wrote everything in cPanel edit utility (it's just like notepad, except you're editing directly on the server rather than locally on your computer, so you don't need to upload all the time). Best thing I ever did was install Apache (an HTML server) on my local hard drive, and then install PHP and MySQL on top of that, and use Notepad++ to edit. So much faster and useful. Basically your computer becomes a little miniature server that can serve up dynamic webpages on your local computer.
And please don't use a WYSIWYG editor like Dreamweaver when you start, that's cheap, lazy, and you won't learn the proper coding techniques.[/QUOTE]

Thank you for summing it all up and putting it all on one post!

Would I download Apache and Notepad++ if I had a host that offers the cpanel? Like In Motion? Or thats only if I wanted to test things?

How easy is it to get an account with In Motion, but buy all the domains from godaddy??
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Apache+PHP+MySQL+Notepad++ is for developing your website. It's faster because you don't actually have to transfer or receive information over the internet, everything is local. Once you're done developing there, you upload everything to your host and your site is ready to go! cPanel is a handy utility for managing your server, but I'd recommend developing on your computer and not editing in cPanel like I did. It's very useful for last minute, or quick changes to your code once everything is already uploaded.

Very easy. First you go to GoDaddy and register the domain name. Then you go to Inmotion and purchase the hosting (make sure you select to purchase ONLY the hosting, not both hosting and domain).
Once that's done, find the address of the DNS servers Inmotion uses (should be displayed when you login), head back over to GoDaddy, and in your account change your domain name's DNS servers to Inmotion's, wait 24 hours for the DNS to propagate, and you're good to go!

I have to run for a couple hours, but I'll check back here once I get back.

EDIT: By the way, if you're interested, this guy has a good tutorial on installing Apache/PHP/MySQL on Windows 7:
http://www.webdevelopersnotes.com/ho...-windows-7.php

You can also install phpMyAdmin afterwards, but I'd recommend learning how to deal with MySQL on the command line level before moving to phpMyAdmin.

Quick note for later: when you download PHP for integrating with Apache, you'll want the Thread Safe version
Edited by crazyap7 - 8/10/11 at 9:30am
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If you need IE specific stylesheets, you're doing something wrong...I've coded websites, designed web apps, transformed XML with XSLT and have NEVER needed an IE-specific stylesheet, EVER. That's in almost 2.5 years on the job.

If you're needing an IE-specific stylesheet, you're probably either a.) not clearing properly b.) not using reset stylesheets or c.) not setting margin/padding on elements that need it (thus giving IE the job...*shudders*)
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If you need IE specific stylesheets, you're doing something wrong...I've coded websites, designed web apps, transformed XML with XSLT and have NEVER needed an IE-specific stylesheet, EVER. That's in almost 2.5 years on the job.

If you're needing an IE-specific stylesheet, you're probably either a.) not clearing properly b.) not using reset stylesheets or c.) not setting margin/padding on elements that need it (thus giving IE the job...*shudders*)
Mainly use it for support to older versions of IE (down to IE6) that don't show things pretty. Or to apply, for example, rounded borders using images, since it doesn't have CSS3.

@J.Mattes: I can't respond to your PM because your inbox is full.
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You have Cablevision, I'm assuming you have a tv and internet package with them. Also you live in ny right?

I don't understand why would you be complaining about bad internet, when they have a good upgrade internet package. I know because I have a cousin in ny and has the same thing and his internet is 1000xs better than what I can find where I live.
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