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That really doesn't surprise me about ASUS running into a wall when overclocking sooner..the ATI ASUS I had sucked ass for overclocking and was advertised as a beast of a overclocker.

And if money is a concern, and you don't feel like waiting for the MSI Extreme 3GB to come back into stock (I'm sure it will) then just get this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127567

However, I don't know how much has changed from Forzr 2 to Forzr 3, and it seems there is only a 1.5GB Forzr 2 and no 1.5GB Forzr 3 version.
That's exactly what I want to hear, but so far no one has yet to come out and describe the difference between TFII and TFIII cooling (besides the advertising crap that proves to be faulty most of the time, like ASUS DCII for example).

Anyway, will continue this quest tomorrow
Edited by Duplicated - 8/9/11 at 10:10pm
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I really recommend the lightning 580 xtreme from MSI if you have the money from it, it is faster, more stable, cooler, and slimmer then most non reference cards and honestly I will never go back to anything but MSI lightnings.
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That's exactly what I want to hear, but so far no one has yet to come out and describe the difference between TFII and TFIII cooling (besides the advertising crap that proves to be faulty most of the time, like ASUS DCII for example).

Anyway, will continue this quest tomorrow
Same cooler basically, TFII is reference and TFIII is custom pcb. TFII can use reference fullcover waterblocks.

The DCII is a wacky card, the cooler leaves me smacking my forehead why? The ram isn't actively cooled with a sink, and the vrm sink is puny. On the flip side either of the MSI cards, TFII/III or Lightning come with built-in ram/vrm heatsink plates that make them very friendly to gpu only waterblocks... except the TFII can use a fullcover.
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I really recommend the lightning 580 xtreme from MSI if you have the money from it, it is faster, more stable, cooler, and slimmer then most non reference cards and honestly I will never go back to anything but MSI lightnings.
Wouldn't 2x 6950s achieve the same result? I mean, 4GB xfire vs 3GB single card, it's obvious that the single card is more preferred by most games. But will future games take advantage of the 3GB VRAM on a 1920x1080 resolution?

Edit: Not to mention that the 580 lightening is oos everywhere...
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Same cooler basically, TFII is reference and TFIII is custom pcb. TFII can use reference fullcover waterblocks.

The DCII is a wacky card, the cooler leaves me smacking my forehead why? The ram isn't actively cooled with a sink, and the vrm sink is puny. On the flip side either of the MSI cards, TFII/III or Lightning come with built-in ram/vrm heatsink plates that make them very friendly to gpu only waterblocks... except the TFII can use a fullcover.
As in EK 580 waterblock?
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I've made up my mind (plus receiving additional fund from my dad).

N580 Lightning XE on the way Thank you all.
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I have the Galaxy GTX 580 with the Arctic Accelero Xtreme Plus Cooler on it. Paid $435 after $40 MIR and $25 Promo code. This card is awesome, quite, super fast, good OCer, and is cheaper than all the others. I highly recommend the GTX 580 from Galaxy. I think this Galaxy is the best of all the others.
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I have the Galaxy GTX 580 with the Arctic Accelero Xtreme Plus Cooler on it. Paid $435 after $40 MIR and $25 Promo code. This card is awesome, quite, super fast, good OCer, and is cheaper than all the others. I highly recommend the GTX 580 from Galaxy. I think this Galaxy is the best of all the others.
Not gonna bother installing aftermarket cooler
My next step after this is water. Thanks for your input though.
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Wouldn't 2x 6950s achieve the same result? I mean, 4GB xfire vs 3GB single card, it's obvious that the single card is more preferred by most games. But will future games take advantage of the 3GB VRAM on a 1920x1080 resolution?

Edit: Not to mention that the 580 lightening is oos everywhere...

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You wouldn't have 4GB in Crossfire. You'd still only have 2GB. 2GB per card, you've still got 2GB of useable VRAM. So no, the 3GB single 580 will have more useable VRAM.

I'd rather take the strongest single GPU I can afford, period. Less issues that way. That's why I have a 580. Plus, if you feel you need more later, you can always SLI or Crossfire later.
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I've made up my mind (plus receiving additional fund from my dad).

N580 Lightning XE on the way Thank you all.
You order from Newegg? I see they have the MSI Lighting 3GB back in stock, which took less than a week.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127589
    
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Wouldn't 2x 6950s achieve the same result? I mean, 4GB xfire vs 3GB single card, it's obvious that the single card is more preferred by most games. But will future games take advantage of the 3GB VRAM on a 1920x1080 resolution?

Edit: Not to mention that the 580 lightening is oos everywhere...

As in EK 580 waterblock?
Yep, takes a ref fullcover waterblock. But I guess that's a moot point now.


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