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Bleh... doesn't seem like such a loss really. The decrease probably isn't directly related to the integrated GPUs. I've worked at a magazine publisher and a decrease in sales is usually a result of a nice surge of sales from a year or two before.

Example:
I bought a 8800GT in 2008, great GPU. I didn't buy one in 2009, nor 2010, and thousands of other people did the same. I bought a GTX570 in 2011, and probably won't upgrade for a good 2 years again.

How it relates to the magazine business I was mentioning:
Subscribers sign up for a 3 year magazine subscription. If we get plenty of 3 year subscriptions within a year, that means it is likely that those 3 year subscribers won't be signing up again for another 3 years, so those 3 years may seem to suffer from decreased sales.

All this and also the fact that a lot more people are buying retail laptops and desktops nowadays (especially counting netbooks) contributes to the higher sales of integrated GPUs. Intel just brought out Sandy Bridge, which is faring very well. Intel's new huge release is leading to huge sales gains, while NVIDIA's/AMD's usual customers are holding off since they just bought new GPUs within the past year or two. Intel sales increasing while NVIDIA's/AMD's sales decrease at the same time, making it SEEM like Intel is killing them when they're really not.
Edited by Stealth Pyros - 8/10/11 at 1:16pm
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How do they count Intel GPUs as integrated? Is it by sales or by usage tracking? A lot of people bought Sandy Bridge CPUs but may not have used its integrated GPU. Also some models ship with both Intel + AMD gpus on the laptop. It would still count towards Intel's integrated GPU market share.
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How do they count Intel GPUs as integrated? Is it by sales or by usage tracking? A lot of people bought Sandy Bridge CPUs but may not have used its integrated GPU. Also some models ship with both Intel + AMD gpus on the laptop. It would still count towards Intel's integrated GPU market share.
This too. I thought about this as I posted, but didn't include it. It's likely counted by sales if the title is accurate.
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How do they count Intel GPUs as integrated? Is it by sales or by usage tracking? A lot of people bought Sandy Bridge CPUs but may not have used its integrated GPU. Also some models ship with both Intel + AMD gpus on the laptop. It would still count towards Intel's integrated GPU market share.
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This too. I thought about this as I posted, but didn't include it. It's likely counted by sales if the title is accurate.
They probably count the amount of graphic adapters they've sold because no matter how you look at it, you still pay for graphics portion of the chip even if you don't use it. If you buy a SB + AMD HD6k system (notebook or desktop) Intel still gets a profit because you "buy their graphics chip". Same thing with a Thuban + 880/890GX + nVidia setup. You still pay for the graphics inside the chipset which ends up being a profit for AMD. nVidia loses quite a lot to AMD and Intel because of this.
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They probably count the amount of graphic adapters they've sold because no matter how you look at it, you still pay for graphics portion of the chip even if you don't use it. If you buy a SB + AMD HD6k system (notebook or desktop) Intel still gets a profit because you "buy their graphics chip". Same thing with a Thuban + 880/890GX + nVidia setup. You still pay for the graphics inside the chipset which ends up being a profit for AMD. nVidia loses quite a lot to AMD and Intel because of this.
Profit all you like but if it's not used then it's fake marketshare.
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I guess so. It also explains AMD's high numbers compared to nVidia.
AMD has actually more market share than nVidia in dedicated cards. APUs haven't even had their 'boom', so that is an insignificant part of their share.
   
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AMD has actually more market share than nVidia in dedicated cards. APUs haven't even had their 'boom', so that is an insignificant part of their share.
Well, I know they have a bigger market share in revenue I don't know for sure in units. Moreover I don't know about Q2 2011 either.

What I meant with the previous statement however, is that AMD has 780/785/880G and 790/890GX while nVidia quit making integrated graphics since S775 and ION. That would explain the large difference.
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Considering how many OEM systems ship with AMD processors... Yeah, it is a part of the share, but once again, not largely relevant.

Before nVIDIA quit shipping IGPs, there was a crapload of years where the only choices were SIS graphics or nVIDIA graphics, in discrete IGP terms.


The scales balance themselves.
   
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But then the people with sandy bridge might not be using the IGP, So i reckon it will more be like 40% market share
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