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... Maybe my mistake was not coming to OCN first for Linux help.
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What I do not understand is: How can you NOT know how to use google and yet you can set up an advanced profile on a MB? It just boggles my mind.

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I had to try other methods because the .run file always complains that I have an X server running, even if I kill it and drop to CLI-only by hitting Ctrl-Alt-F1 (or whatever the key combo is). That's on my desktop anyway. It installs just fine on my laptop but then startx only brings me to a black screen and I have to power-cycle and delete my xorg.conf file to get it working again, which of course prevents X from loading the NVIDIA drivers. I haven't had time to investigate further.
You have to stop Xorg, so you have to shut down kdm/xdm.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=shut+down+xorg+nvidia

[edit] It's literally easier than asking us on OCN!!! That's what boggles me, there are blog posts, wiki posts, forum posts, 100x posts about linux problems. You can set up a user account and yet you can't search? This goes for the Win forums too, it's why I won't go there. Too many problems are based off the "I'm to freaking lazy to search" principle. I won't do it, so I stay clear.
Edited by mushroomboy - 8/10/11 at 1:14pm
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It's really easy to find Linux answers really, some times easier than windows. The Arch Linux wiki has nearly ever answer to every question ever and for the most part a lot of that is transferable to other distros.
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After my Unix/Linux instructor told me that he uses Windows when he needs to get things done the book got closed on Linux as a desktop OS,simply no reason to go through the hoops when I can simply boot up Windows and start producing, and being productive is what it is all about.
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I have had the exact opposite experience, finding people both here on OCN and on UbuntuForums to be extremely helpful and patient.

Of course, I do not ask basics of CLI use. LOL When I hit a roadblock, I hit Google, I search threads on multiple forums for similar or same problems already solved, then when I have exhausted all hope I ask for a quick point in the right direction or something I overlooked after outlining all the steps I have already taken.

The second someone says "I tried linux but I was always booting into Windows for games....." I just shake my head. If playing video games on your PC is THAT big of a chunk of your PC use, why are you even LOOKING at Linux? Linux supports games, has a bunch of native ones also.....is it seamless, painless, and perfect? No. So if your primary PC use is to run out and buy a new game, load it and play it, then, stick with Windows. Linux never claims to be an all encompassing "solution" for everyone, that's Windows claim to fame (and $300 price tags). The reason to go to Linux is if you are sick of using the same old plain jane "universal" Windows experience and want to have an OS that does what YOU want, not what everyone else wants.

It takes work, it takes patience, sometimes it takes a LOT of swear words
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I usually have no problem finding how to use some command with Google. The issue is when something doesn't work as it should (ex. my NVIDIA drivers, getting WPA2 set up, installing a TeamSpeak server as a daemon) that I run into problems and end up having to find 10 different guides and grabbing bits and pieces of each until I find something that works. The Linux CLI itself is well-documented enough for me. It's all the third-party stuff that gives me headaches.
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Never really had a problem with Linux as a desktop environment. It can do everything I want it to with little fuss.
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You really shouldn't of started with arch,a more user friendly distro may have changed your mind.
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I gave up on linux when I was told "I should know these things" when asking how to install programs via a command line/terminal.

Not only is the OS a pita to use, run and maintain.... Most of the support userbase is snobby as hell
The 'support userbase' may come across as snobby to those who do not have basic skills.
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The reason to go to Linux is if you are sick of using the same old plain jane "universal" Windows experience and want to have an OS that does what YOU want, not what everyone else wants.

It takes work, it takes patience, sometimes it takes a LOT of swear words

As I said. I have the patience and am willing to put in the effort and if it was just games then no big deal. The problem is a huge part of what I do is drawing, rendering, photo processing and editing usually using a Wacom tablet. The problem is that Adobe owns everyone when it comes to these activities and consequently everything works better because things like a Wacom tablets are designed with such applications in mind.

I don't like the idea that you either use Linux and stick it to the man or you are a lazy sheep who just wants everything to work out of the box.

The problem is not the effort needed to setup Linux and it's not the time spent learning it is simply the fact that it does not do what I want to do on a desktop as effectively as windows. For someone who does different things it may be the complete reverse. Believe me I really like a lot of things about Linux and if some of my favorite proprietary apps were available for Linux I think it would be fantastic. I really wish I could find some reason to keep using it on my desktop.



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You really shouldn't of started with arch,a more user friendly distro may have changed your mind.
I did not start with Arch I worked my way to it and have been using it for a few years. I went through ubuntu,fedora,opensuse and tried damn near every distro in existence including Gentoo.

THIS IS NOT A LINUX NOOB "I TRIED IT FOR 5 SECONDS AND DIDN'T LIKE IT" POST, I HAVE BEEN USING LINUX ON A DESKTOP FOR YEARS!
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