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post #42 of 126
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Audigy2? Depends on the card, I'm betting it was auto-detecting whatever card would respond first. That can be a coin toss, happens with nic cards too. Your best bet is to blacklist the cards in your system you don't want working. Your actually told to blacklist audio cards you don't want working unless you want a duel card .asoundrc as it gets mucky (various wiki sources will say that). I know you were originally trying to get that X-Fi working which (probably) won't happen in Linux.
On Windows I can just plug it into whatever and switch on the fly :/

My usual setup is my Audigy out to my headphones, mic in to Audigy, Wii sound into HD Audio's mic port (because its connected to my TV tuner's s-video input) and my monitor connected through HDMI, with sound.


But like I said, deviate from the norm in Linux and you run into a ton of issues.
    
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post #43 of 126
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On Windows I can just plug it into whatever and switch on the fly :/

My usual setup is my Audigy out to my headphones, mic in to Audigy, Wii sound into HD Audio's mic port (because its connected to my TV tuner's s-video input) and my monitor connected through HDMI, with sound.


But like I said, deviate from the norm in Linux and you run into a ton of issues.
It's because ALSA was never created to switch between sound cards. They didn't think that far ahead and now nobody really works on it. PulseAudio decided to help with that but they should have pushed it back into ALSA as it would have been much better. Go yell at ALSA for writing crappy code and not thinking ahead.
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post #44 of 126
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But like I said, deviate from the norm in Linux and you run into a ton of issues.
So much this, it's at the point where where I work has a specific standard P55 system configuration they want you to try and meet so that the Linux we use (Scientific Linux) doesn't choke due to some weird issue.

PS for those of you going "lol noob do this do that do the other thing"? You're basically convincing the non-hardcore Linux users that it's too much of a PITA.

Yes, in theory things like apt-get are fairly standardized, but even so the exact list of procedures supplied by a google search always seems to have one or three minor deviations so that being sure of the next step becomes more of a rote key-punch and hope the result matches the google search rather than truly intuitively understanding what's wrong and what end-around you need to accomplish the desired task.

This is why GUI front-ends are so popular and why things like Ubuntu and PC-BSD have package updates that the purists always sneer at saying "compile it directly, noob".

They're basically easier to use.
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post #45 of 126
i dont use linux as a full time desktop just because i dont expect it to run the windows applications i use frequently but some times randomly some times i can use linux for a couple days straight without needing a reboot, some times i boot up into linux and want to use something i have a tool for in wndows with no linux equivilant and end up rebooting in 5 minutes...

linux has its place in my heart, i honestly love teh system i love tweaking with stuff, i love the security side and some of the amazing things you can do in linux that just arent possible or are much harder in windows... but for my desktop ill run windows

i use linux for specific stuff, like i can use grep to find poorly named files created by programs even if they are binary files (did this to find certain 1v1 match demo files for quake that were time stamped but not named by opponent), and i use backtrack frequently for lots of security and professional needs as well as to scratch my penetration testing itch for knowledge

linux as far as an administration view point is muuuuch better than windows in my opinion, any server i run will be linux, and i much more enjoy dealing with more advanced administration in a linux environment

even with how much i enjoy linux and value its uses, for a desktop i will still and probably always will run primarily windows
Kinda meh now...
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post #46 of 126
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I do not expect it to be windows but I do expect it to be viable for something I want to do and it simply isn't for any of my desktop activities. When you use windows for more than 50% of what you want to do it pretty much just becomes a windows pc with a Linux partition for the fun of it.

I do enjoy tweaking though and certainly wish was as maliable.
If 50% of what you do must be done in windows, then you should use windows as your main desktop. Linux is not the best for everyone.

It just depends on what you are trying to do and what you prefer doing it with as to which OS you should choose. Most of what I want to do is easier or faster on linux. The only exception is gaming... oh and using an iPod with Linux was not ideal from what I remember, however I also hated using iTunes...
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I use Windows as my primary OS at the moment as I'm not comfortable enough yet with Linux (I'm no noob mind you), and because I haven't found replacements for all my applications. Oh, and I'm a distro hopper that seeks to find something new every few weeks. It's actually for that reason that I prefer Linux to Windows; Windows is static and boring.
    
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I don't like the idea that you either use Linux and stick it to the man or you are a lazy sheep who just wants everything to work out of the box.
Stick it to the man? How about buy food, or pay the power bill? LOL I have 6 computers, I would love to build some more, I really don't feel like slapping down $600+ for Windows, especially since the way it works and looks infuriates me. My transition to Linux as a permanent, single solution is driven by XP being phased out and support for programs to even OPERATE in it being dropped. And $600 would only get me the bare bones limited Windows 7, to actually be able to network them all together would cost over $1000, just for the damn OS. And then I bet 3 of them would burst into smoke if I didn't roll Win 7 back to XP appearance and function ANYWAY!!!!

Nope, not about me sticking it to the man.....it' about me not letting the man stick it to me anymore....LOL


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If 50% of what you do must be done in windows, then you should use windows as your main desktop. Linux is not the best for everyone.
Exactly my point. And I am not in anyway some Linux hardcore user. I have played with Linux on and off for the last 5 years. I just started using it exclusively on 2 of my systems a few months ago. I am not trying to come off as some Linux snob or arrogant jerk. I am not even trying to "convince" you to stick with Linux. I am just confused/amazed at the apparent revelation in the purpose of this thread....ie "Linux doesn't run games and the other software I have to have, so I'm done...."

The bottom line is if you look at what you MUST have the computer do (run games and run Adobe rendering not supported or replicated to your satisfaction in Linux programs) then having some epiphany that Linux is not for you is like a guy buying a Fiat 500 and having an epiphany that it won't tow his horse trailer and go offroading.

If it doesn't do what you want, then by all means buy something that does and be happy. The world won't end.
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Also you really have to work with linux, you have to figure out how to do the things you did in Windows all over again. They have different philosophies and a lot of different programs. It took me ages to get some of the programs from "windows" replaced. Today I actually love my linux variants more, so much that I suggest windows versions (if that applies).
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Also you really have to work with linux, you have to figure out how to do the things you did in Windows all over again. They have different philosophies and a lot of different programs. It took me ages to get some of the programs from "windows" replaced. Today I actually love my linux variants more, so much that I suggest windows versions (if that applies).
The point is, it shouldn't take that much work.

If the basic philosophy of Linux is to be a free or low-cost alternative to Windows, the he-man chest-beaters who think it's a badge of honor to fprot the tarball by hand and recompile the kernel for kicks have got to stop treating Linux like it's some kind of exclusive club.

LOL shoot yourself in the foot much thar, people?
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