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Alright, I'm taking a break from work for this week so I switched to windows for some gaming in between catching up on procrastinated errands and the beach. All my folding is usually in linux. So when I'm not gaming I'll be folding which means setting everything up for folding in windows.

I also want to smooth my windows setup out because this is what I'll run for foldathon's and chimp challenge as opposed to my "normal" bigadv linux only folding etc.

I'll be wanting to run bigadv and 3 480's. Should I be running the old fah 6.XX versions because of bigadv or should I run 6.XX for the cpu and 7 for the gpu's? Yes I know I could get a little more ppd with a vm, but as I already dual boot linux, and don't intend to run windows for large periods of time, I'm just not going to bother.

What's the safest way to stop and start the processes in windows without corrupting anything?

Drivers seems a mixed bag some have luck with the latest, some don't. Any 480 owners confirm what works for them?

Do I need to install specific cuda tools etc?

Should I disable SLI for folding and reenable it every time I game?

How about stable overclocks for folding? I'm running 1.138V @ 860MHz right now, does this seem about right?

Anything else?
Edited by stren - 8/10/11 at 9:28am
     
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I'd use the v6 clients for all, or even the GPU Tracker. It's easier to mess around with configs than v7 right now. Make sure to leave one or two cores from your SMP client to give space for the GPUs.

The technically correct way of stopping the console clients (SMP and console GPU) is CTRL+C. I've not had any problems just X-ing out though.

v266.58 are the ones I'd recommend. They seem to be the most stable with the least issues.

No CUDA stuff needed in addition.

Yes, disable SLI for Folding.

The OC is all on you; keep upping the shaders until the GPU WU crashes, and then you know you're at the max for that voltage. Other GTX 480 Folders might chip in their OCs though.
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Cool thanks Z! Installing drivers and tools now

I also found out the latest drivers don't work with SC2, so I guess that cements the driver decision

Also reducing cores means I won't have access to the 6903 style units right? Is it better to lose some ppd by not reducing cores and make up for it by being able to run 6903's?

So I got 6.41 for gpu and 6.34 for cpu, sound right?
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So 860MHz was fine for a bit, bumped up to 875MHz, highest temps at 52C However gpu-2 is a buynch lower than gpu-1 even though they're on the same project. Any ideas?



Ignore the anonymous user on gpu-0, the config file is set correctly, I accidentally started the WU before changing it and hfm doesn't seem to update til the next WU starts.
     
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The 6903/6904 is only available in Linux.

The versions seems right.

Edit: Checked the GPU usage, and that is actually is at your set MHz? Also check current frame, ctrl+b, if it hasn't been like that since the beginning.
Edited by arvidab - 8/10/11 at 10:51am
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The 6903/6904 is only available in Linux.

The versions seems right.

Edit: Checked the GPU usage, and that is actually is at your set MHz? Also check current frame, ctrl+b, if it hasn't been like that since the beginning.
Ah ok stupid windows!

GPU usage - all 3 are at 99% in afterburner, and at the same clock frequency. I did see some brief blips down to 0% on various gpu's since adding in SMP, possibly reducing cpu threads or priority on SMP will help this as I don't remember seeing this prior to starting SMP also, however PPD and TPF of the GPU's seems to have remained the same, so maybe I just didn't see it.

Frame rate has been consistent on all 3 cards across the WU. For the same clock and project that third card seems just worse than the others. It crashed the WU after a while at 875MHz, so I lowered them all back to 860MHz. The new WU is the same project and is giving the same TPF. I wonder if there's a problem with this card.

Now added bigadv in with no core reduction, no real drop in gpu performance, temps did go up 4C though. Getting TPF of 27.48 on a 2685 @ 4.66GHz (12 threads). This would only give 36K ppd which seems really low for a hexcore bigadv.
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So turns out Z was right of course about dropping the thread count when using gpu's, even though the gpu's use so little cpu:

Bigadv 12 threads no gpu (P2685) = 22.08 TPF
Bigadv 10 threads + 3 gpu (P2685) = 23.10 TPF
Bigadv 12 threads + 3 gpu (P2685) = 27.48 TPF

I always like to check for my self though I'm amazed that the 10 threads was so close to 12 threads, I would have expected it to be at least 20% more i.e. 26.30 TPF, makes me think there was something wrong with the 12 threads without gpu run. Maybe I had too much other stuff going on in the background.

GPU3 continues to be 15%-20% lower than the other 2 GPUs for the same work units and same clock frequency. I really don't understand this one.

On the plus side I can now estimate my max output as ~108K ppd (including a 460 and an e8500) and excluding a 920 @ 4.0 folding bigadv on linux that if we estimate at 30kppd would give about a total of 140k ppd max. Sadly I don't have the money to fold it all the time, but at least I'm setup to use it when ocn demands an extra push for chimp challenges and foldathons
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Gah! So after testing all day yesterday, I shut down before bed and turned it back on this morning and it wouldn't post Motherboard debug led's say gpu, voltages are all up, reset cmos didn't do anything. Time to take the loop apart and try a different gpu
     
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I would like to add that if you don't plan to run Windows for great periods of time, like 24-36 straight hours, you'd be better off by not folding bigadv units, only SMP. Why, cuz bigadv will take much time to complete, even with a sub-23 min TPF, while folding SMP units you don't have to wait that long to finish and upload the WU.
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I would like to add that if you don't plan to run Windows for great periods of time, like 24-36 straight hours, you'd be better off by not folding bigadv units, only SMP. Why, cuz bigadv will take much time to complete, even with a sub-23 min TPF, while folding SMP units you don't have to wait that long to finish and upload the WU.
just my 2 cents
As long as I finish within the deadline I'm getting more points doing bigadv than SMP. I can finish bigadv easily without folding 24/7 so it's not a big deal.

On the negative side my 990x died yesterday and I need to rma it, so I'll be running the 920 which I may have to switch to SMP depending.
     
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