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You're confusing inventive with innovative. Someone doesn't have to invent something in order to improve (innovate) upon it.
Your point is moot. Where's the list?
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post #22 of 41
To paraphrase what I wrote on the other Apple litigation thread:



^^^The innovation Inquisition = APPLE^^^

They're gonna claim every innovation they can for themselves. Just wait. The doors are gonna get broken down pretty soon and they're gonna be wearing blue apple shirts instead of the red...
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post #23 of 41
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Misappropriation is the intentional, illegal use of the property or funds of another person for one's own use or other unauthorized purpose.

Is it someone else's property? Yes, at first. It was lost then found, becoming the property of the findee, so misappropriation can not be applied to the findee.

Is selling the item illegal or images of said product? No. There is no issue of providing images of any product, like I mention below, there is no NDA these members are under.

Was the person who found the item under any NDA? No, there is no contractual agreement between prototype hardware, the manufacturer, and some laymen standbyer.

This is not a legal case. Civil case potentially, one would have a very good case via lawsuit but it still would need Judge & Jurry trial proving it cost Apple monetary damage or potential loss of competition due to design disclosure to public.

This is corrupt.

Oh, another anti-Apple fanboy legal expert. Here is the exact text of California Penal Code 485 (Missapropriation of Lost property- what they're charged with)(source: http://law.onecle.com/california/penal/485.html):

"One who finds lost property under circumstances which give him
knowledge of or means of inquiry as to the true owner, and who
appropriates such property to his own use, or to the use of another
person not entitled thereto, without first making reasonable and just
efforts to find the owner and to restore the property to him, is
guilty of theft."

Let's go through the situation. I find an iPhone 4, a couple months before release. I clearly know this is a prototype and should be returned to Apple, since I'm whoring it out to tech tabloids for a profit. Now, did those 2 guys contact Apple first? No, they contacted Gizmo and other tech blogs.


Now, the same law could apple to a random guy finding an iPhone 3, iPhone 4 whatever on the street today. IF there's a sufficient amount of information on the phone(it's activated, facebook is logged in, contacts such as "mom" "dad" etc. are on the phone), and you kept it, you could get charged with the same crime. This has nothing to do with Apple being evil, etc. This is just the law.

(also I didn't read your whole post, let me know if you made any valid points )
 
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post #24 of 41
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And what exactly did they innovate?
Because what I have seen is them just implement what has been out there already, but say it's "brand new" and "revolutionary" etc.
How about the tablet computer? I didn't see those flying off the shelf, or better yet even on the shelf, before the iPad. And please don't link some obscure tablet from ten years ago that 5 people owned.
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How about the tablet computer? I didn't see those flying off the shelf, or better yet even on the shelf, before the iPad. And please don't link some obscure tablet from ten years ago that 5 people owned.
There has been tablets for quite some time.
People just buy it for the name and that Apple logo on the back.
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Its like all the apple haters have their arguments on their clipboard because its the same sad story that gets copied and pasted into every apple thread that appears.
I don't have a problem with Apple's products, I just think both their business and legal strategy is psychotically aggressive. I deal with their attorneys from time to time and I'd describe the experience as similar to confronting a nazgul from the Lord of the Rings.
    
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post #27 of 41
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Apple products not innovated? Look at there product line holy crap it's nothing but innovation. If you want to say no innovation look at other PC brands such as dell,tobisha,compaq etc, All the same crap with a different sticker on it.

Apple may be overpriced and extremely locked down but hell if they arn't leading in innovation. Now, are they limiting the speed of how there innovation comes out and stopping others from getting ahead? Damn straight i'll agree with that.


I really hope you are not serious...
releasing old hardware with high price tag and calling it new is not innovating.

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Are you kidding? They think a front facing camera is revolutionary. But the thing is, my HTC phones from the Windows Mobile days had them.
My nokia from high school days had front facing camera. That was like 8 years ago
Edited by bencher - 8/10/11 at 4:09pm
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post #28 of 41
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I really hope you are not serious...
releasing old hardware with high price tag and calling it new is not innovating.
Then why was Apple ranked #5 on the list of top innovators this year by Forbes? Let's see what fun explanation you have for this.

http://www.tapscape.com/apple-ranked...ative-company/
 
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post #29 of 41
Lets not get this mixed up with the patent trolling.

On topic.

Obvously, having a new product leaked is not what they wanted, but where was their legal department back then? Why bring this up now? What are they going to even get out of this? Thats what I want to know.

It's almost like Apple wants to pursue any legal case they can to try and flood the courts. I'd love to know what their end goal is.
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Then why was Apple ranked #5 on the list of top innovators this year by Forbes? Let's see what fun explanation you have for this.

http://www.tapscape.com/apple-ranked...ative-company/
We live in a corrupt world.

Please inform me of the innovations apple did.

If packaging old hardware nicely is innovation then sure...
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