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Hey everyone. I posted regarding Heat yesterday, right here: http://www.overclock.net/amd-general...p-problem.html

Yesterday I was running at 3.7GHz getting about 60c on load with Prime95, the OC'ing was done by the EZ mode performance setting in the Bios.

I upgraded Chassis to the HAF 932, And I noticed a significant difference in temps. I went back into my bios and set everything back to default, but this time rather than letting the EZ mode do the OC'ing I just turned up the CPU multiplier to 20, getting 4.0GHz.

Now max temp I got running Prime95 for an hour at 4.0GHz was 59c.

Now what I am wondering is should I have my CPU multiplier up that high rather than not turning it up as high and ramping up my bus speed? Or is just turning up the multiplier ok? Here is my CPUz specs, after running Prime95 for an hour with no problems.

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1947206


Also I guess I should post some pics of the new case. I have to say it looks alot better. I love this thing more and more every day. lol











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post #2 of 11
I'm pretty sure just using the multiplier as opposed to using the multiplier and bus speed to overclock is fine. I know I do it. Also, very nice looking comp.
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60c huh? I'm sorry to hear you got that high on 3.7, you could do 4.0, but if you ever hit above 50c just using your computer example = gaming, then I would rev it back down.
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Ah I said in my last post that the AC is out in my room, its a bit hot atm, and those are temps without the AC on. Also I noticed a 5c+ decrease from changing from that mid size Thermaltake to the HAF 932. I am idling at 30c at 4GHz right now. You think that is too hot?
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post #5 of 11
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Now what I am wondering is should I have my CPU multiplier up that high rather than not turning it up as high and ramping up my bus speed? Or is just turning up the multiplier ok?
Overclocking using the multiplier will only raise your CPU while overclocking with the FSB will also overclock your memory as well. When messing around with your base clocks you have to make sure you don't take your memory over stock settings as you only want to overclock one component at a time to reduce headaches if instability occurs.
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Yup, thank you YangerD. I had another topic and someone posted the How to OC AMD Phenom II vids. I updated my System info, take a look and tell me what you think. Would I see improvements on 4ghz oc'd via cpu and fsb compared to the 4gz on cpu only?
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post #7 of 11
Overclock the NB. Makes a huge difference on phenom IIs

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post #8 of 11
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So what should I set my multiplier at to start with? Like should I go high on NB then CPU or vice versa?
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post #9 of 11
First make your cpu overclock stable and as high as you want it, and then worry about the cpu/nb overclock.
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post #10 of 11
I wonder what your RAM is actually rated - if it's rated for higher than 1333 CL9 then you should set it to that
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