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Ok, so I think I messed it up this time. Was overclocking with relatively safe numbers ( I think they were pretty conservative, just ran OC Genie and slightly upped the FSB, Multiplier, and voltages ). Running Prime95 stress test and computer shuts down. Restarts and BIOS comes up, everything normal. Then windows loading, first red dot shows (that will soon swirl with other 3 dots to make windows logo in windows 7) and computer restarts. Tried several times, will not pass this stage.

Didn't think it was any hardware issues at first, but then I go to startup repair, and computer freezes on black screen. Figured I'd try Windows Disc, windows loading files message and bar come up ok, but once again when gets to animated logo, computer restarts (this is from the install DVD this time.)

Also, there was one instance when the computer froze and the system started beeping multiple times and would not stop, had to pull power.

So Far I've tried different RAM in different slots, only 1 DIMM at a time, reset BIOS, fail-safe settings. Unplugged wireless add-on card (only add-on besides graphics). No luck. Computer will POST, I can navigate BIOS, but I have a feeling something is messed up. Any Ideas?

If there were to be damages caused by oc, based on my story, what component would be effected?
Edited by IMaGe - 8/14/11 at 8:07pm
post #2 of 13
It is likely unstable. OC genie automatic OC tools should never be used to OC. Always do so through the BIOS, manually.
Reset OC Genie, and/or clear the CMOS (google search or OCN search how to do this).

Side note, what processor are you using? (There have been problems with this board and Phenom II quads/x6 of 125W TDP)
post #3 of 13
Avoid automatic OCing tools. Clear everything and if that doesn't help, I'd guess the computer shutdown was a result of overheating.
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I'm running a Phenom x6 1090T with a CM hyper 212, 2 fans in push/pull configuration. I had HWMonitor on when running stress test and the highest temp it reached was 43-44 degress c before it died.

I have already cleared cmos, and tried again with fail-safe defaults (CPU @ 3.2GHz, memory at 1333MHz) OC Genie disabled. It seems to fail at the same place every time. Unless someone has some insight on what is wrong, I'm pretty convinced that something is damaged, just trying to figure out what to replace...
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If it seems to fail at the same place, one of your OS files may have become corrupted.
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If you are now getting failure at stock speeds, you may have definitely damaged something. Or, of course, the OS is corrupted - since this seems to be only happening there, but navigating the BIOS is fine. Or does it also happen when the Windows install DVD is loaded? If so, something may definitely be damaged. Probably RAM (run memtest86+).

What were the FSB/multipliers/voltages you used when using OC genie?

And goodness.... A 1090T with this board with Hyper 212+ with overclock is going to kill this board! The weak 4+1 phase with no heatsink or thermal protection is the culprit. Of all the low end MSI boards I have seen, this board has the highest failure rate. This board is not ready for x6 overclocking.
I highly recommend that if/when you are able to fix this problem, that you abort your overclocking, revert to using the stock cooler (allowing for VRM cooling), and look into getting a new board.
(Note that a VRM failure would result in the board not being able to turn on at all, you have not reached a VRM failure yet).
post #7 of 13
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I thought one of the OS files were corrupt, which is why I tried windows install disc. Even booting from the disc, it restarted at the same place. xd, I am thinking along the same lines as you, that it is a memory or memory controller issue. I will try running memtest as you suggested.

Actually, I've had the board and processor since December, and the OC Genie overclock was super stable @ 3.6 GHz (nothing too extreme) and working perfectly until I started wanting more juice. Thought process was simple, Memory was running at 1533 MHz, I wanted to press it to 1600, so I raised the FSB, dropped the multiplier, and slightly raised the cpu, cpu-nb, and dram voltage (like tenths) to try and keep everything else as close to what they were. I did mess with trying to press 4.0-4.2 GHz when I first got it, but after running stability tests at the time, I was convinced that I would rather go with a slower clock at ensured stability.

All in all, if the memory tests out ok, I will be replacing the board. Any suggestions for ~$100?
post #8 of 13
Hey xd, I was just about to say that. You gave me the same advice, I didn't try to OC until I upgraded my Mobo, I was running the 870-G45. I upgraded and got the Sabertooth 990FX now I am running 4GHz idling at 28-29 and Getting max temps of 57-59 with Prime95 running.

I had noticed my temps on that MSI board were very high, not CPU wise but everything else.


Edit: I also upgraded my chassis from the mid atx thermaltake to the HAF 932. Huge difference in air flow for me at least.
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post #9 of 13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xd_1771;14547194 
What were the FSB/multipliers/voltages you used when using OC genie?

Not sure on exact numbers when it failed, but here's my best guess:

FSB: 240
Multiplier: x15 <- I think
CPU: 1.308v
CPU-NB: 1.4XXv <- Somewhere around that
DRAM: 1.725v
Edited by IMaGe - 8/11/11 at 2:27pm
post #10 of 13
Prime95 may have crashed because the CPU was unstable (low voltage), but pumping 1.725V through your RAM may have fried it. What particular RAM kit did you use, at what rating?

I also stand by my recommendation of no OC whatsoever from this motherboard (this and related motherboards have a high VRM failure rate and are far from OC ready).... from observations, the MSI 870 motherboard VRMs are usually known to fail after degrading for a certain period of time (6-11 months) if at low voltage, or near instantly if at very high voltage.

For about $100, the ASRock 970 Extreme4 ($105 + $8 shipping on Newegg - CrossfireX/SLI and quality cooled 4+1 VRM setup) or the ASUS M5A97 ($81 shipped on Superbiiz after code ABCDEFG - no CrossfireX/SLI, quality cooled 4+2 VRM setup) are your best options. Both have the AM3+ socket for future processor support.
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