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post #141 of 690
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Originally Posted by kimrom;14613779 

Xai had slight positive acceleration. And yes, we use the same sensor in Sensei. And, yes, it has the same slight positive acceleration.

Kim Rom

So why come out with a newer version? I would think after how many years the Xai's been out the sensor accel could of been lessened or removed completely. That was the only thing stopping me from getting the Xai well and I don't care for hard pads.
post #142 of 690
Hearing that the kana was gonna be optical made my day. I hope it's a lighter better Xai!!!
post #143 of 690
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Originally Posted by kimrom;14613779 

End-users standing at the isle at Media Markt, Best Buy or other major retail chains in Europe and US went with shiny, fluffy and the inflated DPI numbers. It looked and sounded better to them I guess. The buyers who put those products on the shelves want shiny, fluffy, they want the high DPI numbers.

We were faced with a choice - we could keep making mice "for ourselves", and possibly a small select group of people who appreciate our approach and our philosophies. But it would limit our distribution, our reach and ultimately our ability to also work in other product categories. That is not sustainable longterm, the company would either get bought or go under.
..... Or we could listen to the market and try to make products that move volume - and which still embodies our approach, philosophies, core values (and on top of that have some shiny fluff). Not all features we add to our products are added because we believe they are essential for performance - but they may be essential for the person who buying the product. Either because that person likes a feature (say illumination) or because he has been led to believe it is important (say a very high DPI value).

Kim Rom

Thank you for responding!

I was really glad to see the post but when I read it again and again, it still seems like a cop out to whatever you guys said in "Don't Believe the Hype".

You're now essentially doing exactly the same thing that you said we shouldn't believe back when I bought the Xai. You guys have essentially become part of the "hype". Say what you will about how there's great features etc etc (I don't think you'd say any less) but what do you and Steelseries stand for now?

I don't think I could watch another video or read another blog without wondering, after I buy this product, a couple of years from now, will I see another post saying "hey, we're all like you, but due to etc etc, we had to change what we said, but we're still good!"

And I wonder how the people who like the Sensei (and are the same people who buy them off shelves etc) would like to know that you don't really believe what you're selling to them - and that you think they've just bought into the fluff and inflated DPI number - the same hype you now subscribe to?

I have a lot of respect that you responded and I'm glad that you have, and for that, I look forward to trying out the Kana (I will still give you guys that). I hope it won't disappoint.

PS: Thanks for clearing up the issue on the blog - it's still odd that you guys migrated everything with just a "For Maintenance" sign when you could have just pointed it to the new site just days after this issue became live. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
post #144 of 690
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Originally Posted by Telstar;14613362 
Will it have the Ikari shape or will be another idiotic ambidextrous mouse?
How many ppl are left-handed btw? 5%?

how many people are mouth breathing palmers who handle their mouse like a fondling drunk frat boy?

there are plenty of finger/claw grippers out there, this design is one of the absolute best when it comes to grip ambiguity, if you absolutely have to have a mouse crafted to fit your hand like a glove because you're too lazy to actually grip it there are plenty of options out there
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post #145 of 690
You have a point there, bojinglebells. The Ikari is a bit of a lazy hand mouse, made more for the hand to just lay on it. Or to use it at a low sens and just move it around with the entire arm.

At the same time, I'm not sure a symmetrical mouse is really the best approach for a good finger/claw grip either.

And there are definitely not plenty of options out there. Not if you want a good sensor, a good mousewheel etc. to come with the mouse.
I get so frustrated when I see the same essential things missing in mice, if it's not one thing it's another:
1. good sensor
2. thin cable
3. good buttons and scroll wheel
4. at least 5 buttons

These are not really a matter of taste or preference, 'cept for the 5 buttons, maybe, but I doubt there are many people who would be opposed to having more than 3 buttons.

For me the Ikari Optical is good in most aspects, really, but I sometimes wish for something smaller and more claw-like grip friendly, something that I can easily move around with my wrist. And a bit higher CPI wouldn't hurt either. Not in game, but in Windows with high resolutions.
On paper, the CM Spawn looked like it could be it. But I haven't tried it and from what I hear it has some significant flaws.
post #146 of 690
dear steelseries, please develop the kana especially for us the obsessed ones with input fetish. thanks.
post #147 of 690
I really like the aesthetics of this mouse. I'm usually quote resistant to gimmicky peripheral marketing *cough*razer*cough* But I think I'm falling for this one.

This 'exact aim' sounds like it would be a pain, but you never know. I'll wait for some reviews, and if it doesn't turn out to be a flop (I hope it doesn't) I think I'm going to have to buy this tongue.gif
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post #148 of 690
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Originally Posted by jeffxx;14622872 
Kinzu's sensor quality is debatable. I like accel and I think the accel argument that you can't aim with it is finally being put to rest. I happen to like the ambidextrous wmo type shape therefore I didn't like the abyssus.. but maybe you would.


I guess the accel can be preference along with it's well above average amounts of correction, but it's hard for me to consider it a gaming grade sensor when the thing malfunctions earlier than a 250hz+ intellimouse from 2002. Then again, Avago only rated their high performance sensors at 60 IPS which isn't too far off. Ah well, can't really complain if people like it, but I DO think there should have been more options for the people that wanted an all around solid mouse. I mean it isn't impossible to set/toggle correction and accel with other sensors or the game engine itself tongue.gif

Personally, I think the shape size and weight of the kinzu was near perfect, but it was the sensor that put me and a lot of others gamers off.


Oh and the Abyssus is ambidextrous D:
post #149 of 690
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Originally Posted by Skylit;14626117 
I guess the accel can be preference along with it's well above average amounts of correction, but it's hard for me to consider it a gaming grade sensor when the thing malfunctions earlier than a 250hz+ intellimouse from 2002. Then again, Avago only rated their high performance sensors at 60 IPS which isn't too far off. Ah well, can't really complain if people like it, but I DO think there should have been more options for the people that wanted an all around solid mouse. I mean it isn't impossible to set/toggle correction and accel with other sensors or the game engine itself tongue.gif

Personally, I think the shape size and weight of the kinzu was near perfect, but it was the sensor that put me and a lot of others gamers off.


Oh and the Abyssus is ambidextrous D:

I said ambidextrous 'wmo type' shape. I like the edges curved downward and what not. you get my drift.

ANYWAYS...

I hope Kim responds to these posts. It's pretty pointless to come on here and then not respond to anything after claiming he would.
post #150 of 690
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Originally Posted by jeffxx;14626659 
I hope Kim responds to these posts. It's pretty pointless to come on here and then not respond to anything after claiming he would.
You can't expect detailed infos about an officially not really anounced product.
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