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Ok so I have the money now to buy a Phenom II X4 945 cpu to upgrade my Athlon x2 240. I just want to clarify one thing. I have a 9600gt too that im planning to upgrade to a gt 560. Is it right to presume that when playing in low resolutions namely 1024x768 the CPU is more of a bottleneck than my video card?

I'm just stating since I dont have the money to buy both upgrades at once and im planning to take it step by step. Which of the two choices would be the wisest to make?

1) Upgrade CPU first then get the card or
2) Get the card then the cpu.

Which one would benefit me more until I get the next part?

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I think your biggest bottleneck at the moment is your Mobo/memory. I suggest starting your upgrade at the base- the mobo, and then moving up from there. Spending $100 on a 945 and putting it on that board will probably yield only a tiny increase in performance, while spending $120-$150 on a new mobo+some 1333 or 1600 Mhz memory will give you a real kick in the pants performance-wise that will be noticable.
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I dont know too much on bottlenecking but i do know that I am having a fantastic experience with a Phenom II X4 955 BE CPU & a 560 Ti, with no issues. I am running Battlefield BC2 at 1920x1080 with High settings and it looks and plays great!

As for which first, I'd be inclined to say CPU because it is more of a complete solution.
 
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Spending $100 on a 945 and putting it on that board will probably yield only a tiny increase in performance, while spending $120-$150 on a new mobo+some 1333 or 1600 Mhz memory will give you a real kick in the pants performance-wise that will be noticable.
Does ddr2 way different from ddr3 in gaming? I though CPU and the Video card were the most important parts?

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As for which first, I'd be inclined to say CPU because it is more of a complete solution.
Yeah was thinking about this too.

BTW games Im playing and planning to play:
BFBC2 (playable in medium settings. lags a bit when set to high)
Batman:Arkham City
Battlefield 3
Elderscrolls 5 Skyrim

Thanks. More tips would be appreciated
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Running on a 15 or 17 inch monitor?
 
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Yes i do 17 inch to be exact
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So your monitor is limiting you to a maximum gaming resolution of 1280*1024 regardless of installed card. In this case, assuming a monitor isn't on the shopping list, i would definitely prioritize the CPU. The 560 is a great card but until you're able to use it at higher resolutions, its marginally on the overkill side of things.
 
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Originally Posted by jadariin View Post
Does ddr2 way different from ddr3 in gaming? I though CPU and the Video card were the most important parts?



Yeah was thinking about this too.

BTW games Im playing and planning to play:
BFBC2 (playable in medium settings. lags a bit when set to high)
Batman:Arkham City
Battlefield 3
Elderscrolls 5 Skyrim

Thanks. More tips would be appreciated
Yes, bigtime. The games you are listing will have trouble with operating on 2 gb, let alone 2 gb of really slow memory. What you need is a new mobo for around $75 and about $35 for 4 gb of some decent memory. This will make a huge difference in gaming, even with that Athlon.
    
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assuming a monitor isn't on the shopping list, i would definitely prioritize the CPU. The 560 is a great card but until you're able to use it at higher resolutions, its marginally on the overkill side of things.
And its not on my shopping list. Im perfectly happy with my 6yr old crt monitor hahaha XD But I like to at least future proof my rig at some degree.

and Ive read some of the ddr2/ddr3 ram comparisons and they dont seem to have any real difference when it comes to real gaming in the core Im trying to get http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/17...e/index11.html
Edited by jadariin - 8/11/11 at 6:29am
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I suggest starting your upgrade at the base- the mobo, and then moving up from there.
One last piece of advice if i may;
If your running an OEM version of Windows, Do not replace your motherboard! OEM versions of Windows are locked to the first motherboard with which they were used, thus if replacing the motherboard you will need to purchase a full version of windows for your new setup.

If I recall correctly a full version of Windows 7 Home Premium costs $299AUD.

Hope the upgrades go smoothly for ya mate!
 
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