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If Britain does this I lose all respect for the country, or at least all in it that supported this decision. If so many people are this upset that they are willing to riot then something needs to change, the country needs to take this as a sign that something is not right in their country. These aren't outsiders attacking a foreign country, it is Britain's own people.
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If Britain does this I lose all respect for the country, or at least all in it that supported this decision. If so many people are this upset that they are willing to riot then something needs to change, the country needs to take this as a sign that something is not right in their country. These aren't outsiders attacking a foreign country, it is Britain's own people.
I'm sorry but can you read up on the subject before posting please ?
Those riots had no legitimate reason or background ' it was just a mindless thuggery at it's best.
Even Dougan's family said that they do not want to be associated with what's happening on the streets.
The riots and looting had nothing to do with Dougan's shooting , it was started during the protest bout his death but that's all , the rest was not protesting but thieving, plundering ,and thuggery nothing else.
As i said before , a lot of the looters were just passers by who decided to join in as they saw a quick buck without consequences (at least so they thought).
Edited by RobotDevil666 - 8/11/11 at 12:49pm
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post #103 of 109
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I never said that shooting Dougan was a 'justice' I'm only saying that Policeman had a little choice in this situation.
I mean if he was killed wrongly, the police should be brought to justice.

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Trigger happy Police is as bad if not worse than gangsters so once again I'm not condoning shooting to all gangsters/dealers out there not I'm trying to excuse the Police.
What I'm saying is in this particular situation Police was right to do what they did , as far as we know that is.
Well we just don't know what happened in this situation, so you can't say that they were justified, or that Duggan is a true victim. I lean towards being skeptical of the police, and I think you lean towards being skeptical of the drug dealer. Neither of us really know, but I'm glad that you aren't in support of the police being trigger happy.

That is the real issue for me. The guy obviously had a sordid past, and was carrying a weapon. You don't usually carry it unless you are prepared to use it, so I'm not defending him entirely.

I just want justice no matter who is involved when someone is killed.
    
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If you aren't going to post anything constructive, don't just flame when there is an argument - it just makes you look like a total idiot.

They have both stated (multiple times) that a proper conclusion can only really be made after the IPCC have conducted their investigation.

It is perfectly logical to take the word of a police officer over the actions of an armed drug dealer - only time will tell what actually happened.
Oh hey there, guy who sounds ridiculous in his arguments.

I already posted a constructive reply to your ridiculous statements.

I was not flaming, but I'm sure you see it that way.
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I mean if he was killed wrongly, the police should be brought to justice.



Well we just don't know what happened in this situation, so you can't say that they were justified, or that Duggan is a true victim. I lean towards being skeptical of the police, and I think you lean towards being skeptical of the drug dealer. Neither of us really know, but I'm glad that you aren't in support of the police being trigger happy.

That is the real issue for me. The guy obviously had a sordid past, and was carrying a weapon. You don't usually carry it unless you are prepared to use it, so I'm not defending him entirely.

I just want justice no matter who is involved when someone is killed.
By all means if the Police is at fault they should face the consequences.
It's just i have a very hard time believing that in this case , in any way i will be waiting for the IPCC report.
Edited by RobotDevil666 - 8/11/11 at 12:56pm
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If Britain does this I lose all respect for the country, or at least all in it that supported this decision. If so many people are this upset that they are willing to riot then something needs to change, the country needs to take this as a sign that something is not right in their country. These aren't outsiders attacking a foreign country, it is Britain's own people.
Lmao! These rioters don't have any good reason for what they are doing, take a look at their latest offerings, you won't see this in the leftist loon media:

http://www.dawn.com/2011/08/11/slayi...divisions.html

This could very well set off huge ethnic riots, and even though it may make great entertainment for some, a lot of innocent people will get caught in between. The army needs to be sent in ASAP and have these crazy animals put down before more people get hurt and end up blowing this thing into even more chaos.
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Lmao! These rioters don't have any good reason for what they are doing, take a look at their latest offerings, you won't see this in the leftist loon media:

http://www.dawn.com/2011/08/11/slayi...divisions.html

This could very well set off huge ethnic riots, and even though it may make great entertainment for some, a lot of innocent people will get caught in between. The army needs to be sent in ASAP and have these crazy animals put down before more people get hurt and end up blowing this thing into even more chaos.
Holy , this is escalating to whole new levels now.
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Holy , this is escalating to whole new levels now.
Yeah and this happened on the 9th too. There are raging debates going on right now trying to prevent this from escalating into something bigger between community figures. If something snaps here, we will see mayhem.
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IPCC has reported that he didn't fire the shoots at the police.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3juq9nPU-v0

His death was unnecessary if the Police Officer tried to look like he did it.
but did he have a loaded gun on his person???


that's the only thing we need to know beside did he raise said loaded gun at the direction of the officer ... if both questions are answered by a yes .. then everything is by the book


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So owning a weapon is tantamount to murder, and justifies a shoot first ask later policy?

I'm glad you aren't a cop, and sad that any of them share your mentality.

Police lead dangerous jobs and should be kept safe, but they should not be allowed to kill someone armed or not, without first taking other steps to resolve the issue.

do you keep your gun in its holster ??? if so then its the right method .. and if an officer ask you to put your hands in the air do you automaticly do it ???

if yes then you wont have any problem ...


its that simple ... police officers are trained to never use their gun except in desperate need to protect themselves or protect innocent in need ... otherwise they use their talking skillz ...


police are supose to be good negociator at first and then good policeman/policewomen





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The British parliament really show their fascist side in the face of chaos. You cannot subvert an angry mass by taking away even more rights. You want people to stay inside and not riot? Keep the God damn internets on.

LOL wut?
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