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post #51 of 109
Just in my opinion, what's the difference between rioters using social media, and revolutionaries in Africa or some other place that use is in the same way (the types we cheer about and commend their actions)?

It's a fine line, which I don't think should be disturbed.
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post #52 of 109
Hmm there is a lot of information that is up in the air as to whether or not police shot him without provocation. We won't know until a full investigation has been conducted and even then I am afraid of the outcome because there could be a cover up or the true facts come out and what then? hmm...

Also I am reading a lot of comments about how rioters should be shot on site. That's not the answer. You want answer death more death? How is that going to solve anything. I admit that the majority of us living outside of the UK can look at this without being emotionally involved and we can never experienced what you all went through. But take a step back and think what is the right thing to do here and not what you want to do.
post #53 of 109
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Originally Posted by alex-fitton View Post
You missed the part where people got killed from it.

Anyway;

The goverment isnt the problem if there is a proberlem with the police you speak up and protest you do not go round robbing of kids, assulting old people... It is the trouble causers that have used the death of mark duggen as an excuse to go out looting, taking peoples buisenesses and earning away from them.

In my opinion i would have just got the army involved to stop this the day it started but he couldnt because even though it has stopped people will still complain! They guy was away on holiday and he come back to sort it out and they have stopped now that he has come back.

I am not a great fan off david cameron i dont like the fact that he has done all these budget cuts and then give money to poor countrys and some of the other things but if it is going to sort the UK money out i am not going to complain
Yep i totally agree not a big fan of Mr Camron myself but one must admit that he got the situation under control pretty swiftly.

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I never meant that I was for the rioting but it could have been avoided if the Police didn't shoot Mark Duggan which lead to many things that are happening. Cause and Effect.

Justice should be served to anyone who shoot Mark Duggan and to anyone who isn't peacefully protesting and to the people who are doing damage to the business owners.

David Cameran should question and do a full-investigating on the death of Mark Duggan.
Let me just say that i live in Clapham and i saw all that first hand and this had NOTHING to do with Mark Duggan's death , half of the people there didn't even know who he was.
I was in Clapham Junction while those people were looting Debenhams store and i can tell you that there was only small amount of youths who dared to smash the stores , the rest were just followers.
People saw an opportunity to steal something and get away with it (at least they thought so) and joined in , sort of jumping on a bandwagon thing.
You could see grown up doing this as well , hell i saw a mother with two kids , it was simply appalling to say the least.

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Those pics show nothing.
Read the article please.

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Take away all convicted rioter's benefits. That's what I say.
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That's one of the best ideas ever !!!

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I know. I've already signed it.
Where ? i want in on that.

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he was a gang leader or something along that line.

Just because he is one doesnt mean that he should die when he didnt do anything to the police. That is, if the articles saying he didnt shoot at the police are true. If its true, that just means the police basically murdered him.
If one is ready to go out on the street with a ready to fire gun whilst being a gang member he should face the consequences.
Usually Police do not follow/shoot innocent people on the street and on the other side normal people are not gang members and do not carry a loaded weapon.
You fight with a sword you die from a sword.
Being a Policeman must be one of the most ungrateful occupations ever , people will always complain.
Think about this Policeman facing some known , armed and dangerous gang member on the street not the position to be desired huh ?
I bet if it was a Policeman shoot and killed there nobody would care , really I'm sick of all those liberal floppy ***** , Police have hard enough job to do without this kind of BS
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post #54 of 109
lol, id LOVE to see this kind of shux go down in America. Oh man would this have the opposite effect, not only would there be riots this law would cause MORE riots, WHILE people are on facebook they will be rioting.

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If one is ready to go out on the street with a ready to fire gun whilst being a gang member he should face the consequences.
Usually Police do not follow/shoot innocent people on the street and on the other side normal people are not gang members and do not carry a loaded weapon.
You fight with a sword you die from a sword.
Being a Policeman must be one of the most ungrateful occupations ever , people will always complain.
Think about this Policeman facing some known , armed and dangerous gang member on the street not the position to be desired huh ?
I bet if it was a Policeman shoot and killed there nobody would care , really I'm sick of all those liberal floppy ***** , Police have hard enough job to do without this kind of BS
Ya cops are great, when my mom was 20 and i was 2 a cop had her car impounded and she had to walk 8 miles home in the rain, the jerk wouldnt even give her a ride. All because her inspection sticker was expired, yup i <3 cops they relly protected the community with that one, i mean the car was CLEARLY a danger and forcing my mom to carry me in the rain was really helpful. i hate the pigs
Edited by Smoblikat - 8/11/11 at 9:30am
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post #55 of 109
This is scary because if the people do decide to unite under the cause of overthrowing the government (seeing as most people didn't even vote for the Tories) then they do this there is no way to co-ordinate it.

It's like the miners strikes. Miners went on strike in the 1980's. After the strike the first thing the Tory government did was to basically make it illegal to strike like that.

So, although this rioting has been an massive act of stupidness, allowing the government to steamroll the ONLY way the people have of showing the government who's boss is very worrying.

In short, sure, don't supporting this acts of wanton violence and destruction of public property, but I also don't think the government should be allowed to, in any way, shatter that ability.
    
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when your house is broken in who do you call???

the police of course!!
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of course its unjustified, they shot him dead when he didnt shoot at the officers.
Also I wouldnt say its illegal to own a gun in the UK, more like its a whole lot harder to get a license to get one. Its not banned per se.
It is 100% illegal to own a handgun in Great Britain, this is what was found next to his person.

If you are confronted by the Police, brandishing a weapon they are beyond justified to put you down if you do not comply.
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lol, id LOVE to see this kind of shux go down in America. Oh man would this have the opposite effect, not only would there be riots this law would cause MORE riots, WHILE people are on facebook they will be rioting.



Ya cops are great, when my mom was 20 and i was 2 a cop had her car impounded and she had to walk 8 miles home in the rain, the jerk wouldnt even give her a ride. All because her inspection sticker was expired, yup i <3 cops they relly protected the community with that one, i mean the car was CLEARLY a danger and forcing my mom to carry me in the rain was really helpful. i hate the pigs
I'm sorry but you must be 13 or so because there is no reasonable explanation for this line of thinking.

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when your house is broken in who do you call???

the police of course!!
But this is pretty obvious isn't it , you like Police when you need them but if you do something wrong you hate them ............................ people.
With that said there will always be a bad seed and this shouldn't affect anyone's judgement about the whole Police force.
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post #59 of 109
S******.

I love all these responses. This was a loose comment blown up by the media because it sells. I sometimes laugh when people think this would happen in the UK lol
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I never meant that I was for the rioting but it could have been avoided if the Police didn't shoot Mark Duggan which lead to many things that are happening. Cause and Effect.

Justice should be served to anyone who shoot Mark Duggan and to anyone who isn't peacefully protesting and to the people who are doing damage to the business owners.

David Cameran should question and do a full-investigating on the death of Mark Duggan.
Have you been reading the news at all or just high. There was a pistol found at the scene that wasnt a police standard issue. Heck just say the guy had it on him and raised it up to shoulder level, what would you do if you was the copper it was pointed at? I know what i would do. I would have liked the police to have used baton rounds after the first day, no point going in soft.

It started off as a peaceful protest but a small minority decided they wanted to do something better. I would throw them all in jail for as long as possible.
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