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post #1 of 16
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Hey guys
Which one case would you recommend me for both of this configurations.

1st

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition
Motherboard: Asus M5A87
Memory: 4 GB Kingston 1333 MHz
Graphics Card: MSI HD 6950 2 GB (not the twin frozr)
Hard Disk: 1 TB Samsung Seapoint F3
PSU: Seasonic SS-550ET
Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212+

2nd

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition
Motherboard: Asus M5A87
Memory: 4 GB Kingston 1333 MHz
Graphics Card: Asus EAH6950 DCII/2DI4S/1GD5
Hard Disk: 1 TB Samsung Seapoint F3
PSU: Seasonic SS-550ET
Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212+

Which one of those two would you recommend for 1st configuration and which one for 2nd configuration ?
Thanks
post #2 of 16
I would not recommend the 690 II because:
- the 3,5" HDD caddies aren't good at all at preventing vibrations, plus to me they seem very badly engineered, i had a hard time installing my drive
- behind the mobo tray you will not have space to store molex and Sata cables, i didn't check your PSU but if it's not modular don't expect the 690 II to offer enough space for the cables i mentioned.
- the dust filter for the PSU of the 690 II is not removable (not unless you remove the PSU and take out the filter. *** CM?)
- it won't have enough space for the longer cards if you ever upgrade and the top 2 3,5" HDD are not removable (unless you remove the rivets that is...)
- only 2 stock fans, you need to invest more in cooling so don't think the case itself will be the only investment. With stock fans it's pretty mediocre.
- looks, both the 690 II and the 912 have rugged designs more so on the HAF, so if you haven't seen one in real life there is a high chance you might not like either of them. In the reviews they don't give you a good sense of size and proportions, not until you see them upclose yourself.

I haven't had the chance to use a HAF 912 myself so i won't comment much about it but i do know that the HDD cage is completly removable which will allow you to install even the longest video cards available on the market. But just like with the 690 II you will have to invest more money in additional fans....not many people tell you that.
post #3 of 16
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition
Motherboard: Asus M5A87
Memory: 4 GB Kingston 1333 MHz
Graphics Card: Asus EAH6950 DCII/2DI4S/1GD5
Hard Disk: 1 TB Samsung Seapoint F3
PSU: Seasonic SS-550ET
Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212+

if you're not getting the TFII from msi then it's not worth it over the DCII from asus.

as for case.the HAF 912.
    
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post #4 of 16
I'm a newby and the HDD caddies on the 690 aren't bad at all, and all my extra cables on my non modular PSU fit behind my Mobo tray
You will need to invest in fans.. but you get one with a cooler.. and that's enough for my current build.

And on looks, the 912 is waaaay better than the 690 in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by McMogg View Post
I'm a newby and the HDD caddies on the 690 aren't bad at all, and all my extra cables on my non modular PSU fit behind my Mobo tray

I should correct myself, it fits but the door bends a little towards the exterior. I would not call that adequate space. Idk what PSU you got or how you tie your molex and SATA cables but i got 2 molex cables, 1 extra power SATA cable and 1 8 pin (4+4) CPU cable which i needed to store behind the tray. I tried with zip ties but the door wouldn't close right....

I would sure like to see a picture of your WM....

Regarding the HDDs, maybe you got lucky but i got a very noisy HDD and the 690 II's caddies do not reduce noise/vibrations generated by the drive when it's accesed. I've seen plenty of getto solutions on youtube which were better at reducing HDD noise then the 690 II. There, i said it.




Edited by Pentdragon - 8/11/11 at 10:49am
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Originally Posted by Pentdragon View Post
I would not recommend the 690 II because:
- the 3,5" HDD caddies aren't good at all at preventing vibrations, plus to me they seem very badly engineered, i had a hard time installing my drive
- behind the mobo tray you will not have space to store molex and Sata cables, i didn't check your PSU but if it's not modular don't expect the 690 II to offer enough space for the cables i mentioned.
- the dust filter for the PSU of the 690 II is not removable (not unless you remove the PSU and take out the filter. *** CM?)
- it won't have enough space for the longer cards if you ever upgrade and the top 2 3,5" HDD are not removable (unless you remove the rivets that is...)
- only 2 stock fans, you need to invest more in cooling so don't think the case itself will be the only investment. With stock fans it's pretty mediocre.
- looks, both the 690 II and the 912 have rugged designs more so on the HAF, so if you haven't seen one in real life there is a high chance you might not like either of them. In the reviews they don't give you a good sense of size and proportions, not until you see them upclose yourself.

I haven't had the chance to use a HAF 912 myself so i won't comment much about it but i do know that the HDD cage is completly removable which will allow you to install even the longest video cards available on the market. But just like with the 690 II you will have to invest more money in additional fans....not many people tell you that.
For GPU space = the HAF 912 especially once one takes out the top hard drive tray.

To the OP: As an owner of both these cases I feel that Cooler Master could've done a better job.

The 690 II is behind in the hard drive tray configuration and also as mentioned the vibrations are not "contained" enough IMHO. Also the PSU filter design is pitiful - I took the filter and relocated it to the bottom by loosening the feet and sliding it in there then re-tighten the feet. There's a bit more space behind the mobo tray on the HAF 912. Another pet-peeve of mine on the 690 II is that the top I/O (where the power/reset/led switch - and the rest there) is not independent to the rest of the top panel as that when one need to remove that (after squeezing the fingers to release the tabs) one has to deal with the I/O cables still attached while servicing the fan compartment.

The HAF 912 faults is that one needs to take out both side panels to release the front panel because of tabs that need to be released. Also the hard drive vibrations are not contained enough IMHO.

Learn from Lian Li = see how they mount their fans and hard drives as well as most of their case panels that release without wires dangling as well as the filtering which is easier to clean much superior that of the Cooler Master cases.

I like Cooler Master cases BUT they fall short on things (which are irritating at least to me) that in the design phase could've been easily fixed.
Edited by nickt1862 - 8/11/11 at 10:17am
post #7 of 16
The HAF912 seems to have a better internal design but it looks god-awful. I'd personally just buy a CM690 II.
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post #8 of 16
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Originally Posted by nickt1862 View Post
For GPU space = the HAF 912 especially once one takes out the top hard drive tray.

To the OP: As an owner of both these cases I feel that Cooler Master could've done a better job.

The 690 II is behind in the hard drive tray configuration and also as mentioned the vibrations are not "contained" enough IMHO. Also the PSU filter design is pitiful - I took the filter and relocated it to the bottom by loosening the feet and sliding it in there then re-tighten the feet. There's a bit more space behind the mobo tray on the HAF 912. Another pet-peeve of mine on the 690 II is that the top I/O (where the power/rest/led switch - and the rest there) is not independent to the rest of the top panel as that when one need to remove that (after squeezing the fingers to release the tabs) one has to deal with the I/O cables still attached while serving the fan compartment.

The HAF 912 faults is that one needs to take out both side panels to release the front panel because of tabs that need to be released. Also the hard drive vibrations are not contained enough IMHO.

Learn from Lian Li = see how they mount their fans and hard drives.

I like Cooler Master cases BUT they fall short on things (which are irritating at least to me) that in the design phase could've been easily fixed.
Totally agree with you. Lian Li has some faults also, they're cheaper cases only support a few fans (2 or 3 fans). So i would actually suggest buying a Lancool Dragonlord PC-K62 and a fan controller. It's basically the same as the Lian Li cases except it's made out of steel and comes with 4 stock fans (3 x 140mm and 1 rear 120mm). With a fan controller it's superior to any of CM's cases...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811112239
Edited by Pentdragon - 8/11/11 at 10:33am
post #9 of 16
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Ok, to i don't create new threads, what case will you recommend me guys for both of these configurations for 70 euros ?
Thanks
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Ok, to i don't create new threads, what case will you recommend me guys for both of these configurations for 70 euros ?
Thanks
Can you purchase any of these two cases up to 70 euros?

Lets start there.
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