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Regarding over-clocking, Intel generally has the edge here, with the exception being the lower end SB chips.

It's not uncommon for lower end Core 2 era or first gen iX series chips to get 50-100% OCs on air. One of my first Intel chips since the original Pentium was an E2140 that went from 1.6GHz all the way to 3.3GHz on a 70 dollar board with a 20 dollar heatsink.

Even more recent chips like the i7s typically OC better on non-extreme cooling than the Phenom IIs. I've had seven LGA-1366 chips. All but one reached 4-4.3GHz on air. I have a middle of the pack 2600k that does 4.6GHz with minimal tweaking.
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post #52 of 64
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Not a fair comparison
How do you figure? Amd has more cores and it still loses.

As for the OP.. I've had both, X6's, X4's, X3's. I buy the biggest bang for my buck and thats a 2500K. Can hit 4.6Ghz+ with 2 bios changes and a reboot. Spending money on AMD just isn't worth it anymore.

As for bulldozer. It all depends on the IPC. If it sucks BD has no chance. If it's decent they have a chance but i've said this all along. If bulldozer was a threat to sandy bridge amd wouldn't have delayed it till whenever.
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post #53 of 64
PhII scales a lot better than nehalem or SB or anything for that matter really.

That is more what i was talking about.

7.3GHz=1.8v

duck used over 2v to get that on his clarkdale
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post #54 of 64
Depends on the rig I'm building for either me or a customer. I'm not loyal to either one I do like intel better because of the sheer performance you don't get with AMD. bottomline If I want something fast I go intel, If I want something good but don't wanna sell a kidney (this is an exaggeration people get over it Intel is not that expensive) I'd go AMD. Again if a customer wants a Good system depending on the price range I'd go for either one. If they want something Dirt cheap AMD it is.

PS: I'm waiting for bulldozer right now. If it fails I'll go Intel again if it is actually good I'll stick with AMD.
Edited by CloudCR - 8/11/11 at 3:09pm
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post #55 of 64
buy what you like, based on the price at your location of purchase.

what crazy man would buy a 1100t. go cheap like me, go for the lowest 11xx t and overclock. its all about the money baby.
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post #56 of 64
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If bulldozer was a threat to sandy bridge amd wouldn't have delayed it till whenever.
Where is it written that AMD is somehow intentionally delaying the BD release, and that this is somehow related to it not matching up against SB?
    
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post #57 of 64
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PhII scales a lot better than nehalem or SB or anything for that matter really.

That is more what i was talking about.

7.3GHz=1.8v

duck used over 2v to get that on his clarkdale
Comparing LN2 runs? Amd needs LN2 to hit 5Ghz

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Where is it written that AMD is somehow intentionally delaying the BD release, and that this is somehow related to it not matching up against SB?
It's well known to everyone who isn't brainwashed by amd fans propaganda that bulldozer was delayed because they couldn't clock over 2.8Ghz and were performing horribly.
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AMD for budget, Intel for full blown e-peen/speed.
    
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PhII scales a lot better than nehalem or SB or anything for that matter really.
No it doesn't.

In general, Phenom II neither scales better in raw clock speed, percentage increase over stock, nor performance gained relative to the clock increase.

I am of course talking about OCs that are practical to use 24/7, not suicide or just bench stable runs.
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AMD for budget, Intel for full blown e-peen/speed.
Gigabyte 990FX-UD3/955 C3 Combo - 269.98
MSI P67 G43/Core I3 2100 Combo - 254.98

Now before anyone says "I'd rather a quad". Why would you rather a quad core thats slower then a dual core?

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