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Originally Posted by BradleyKZN View Post
Thats what logical thinking is saying, but thats not the way it works sadly.
How many of us "signed petitions" for Modern Warfare 2 and Starcraft 2 and still nothing about the game or ones that followed were changed.

Those were 2 games I still havent bothered with, and wont.
activision definitely is feeling the pain now... just saying.

@deluxe, misread wikipeadias site, I thought it said 'not essential to play CS1.6' but it was 'was essential to play CS1.6'. My bad. Once it got out of beta they did sign other publishers up though....
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I arrived late to this thread - how many people complained about installing a piece of software/how many people are now skipping BF3?
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Battlefield 3 is just another game. Nothing special. This is a game that can be skipped. It is just the sequel to Bad Company 2.
I'm sorry, but I literally had to respond to this when I saw it. What is this even supposed to mean? You haven't put forward any opinions or arguments that require validation, and I have absolutely no idea what this is supposed to mean. We know it's "just" a game, we know it has some feature from BC2. So? Why is it a game that can be skipped? As opposed to what other games?

It's a game that promises to be incredible and will have everyone and their grandmother playing it for months and months. Why is this a game that can "be skipped", as opposed to anything else?

Really, my mind is being torn trying to understand this.

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The smaller squads with no commander makes it closer to Bad Company 3 than Battlefield 3 imho.
Smaller squads and no commander, huh? What about prone, 64 players, jets and huge maps? To clarify, were you under the impression that BC2 was in anyway a failure? Were you under the impression that people disliked BC2? Actually, it's one of the most popular PC shooters out right now, and EA be damned if they don't realize that and try to implement some features from it.


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I also like to have all of my games in one place. And, that place is Steam. I don't like physical copies, and I really don't like multiple services on my computer.
So you complain that you want digital download services (instead of physical copies).. and when you get that you complain that you only want 1 of said services, not 2... A bit picky, no?

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Why would we give absolute control over the "ownership" of our game to an untrustworthy company? It makes no sense.
Because said "untrustworthy company" published the game? If you're so vehemently against EA, stay away from their games entirely. Call me up when you find an honest game publisher that is genuinely loved by the community and doesn't care about money.
Edited by Narzon - 8/12/11 at 7:26am
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Originally Posted by dzalias View Post
People aren't upset that EA wants their own store (whether they realize it or not). They're upset over the implications.

No one wants 10 different digital distribution programs for each major publisher that releases a game, and that's just what might happen if this "trend" continues.
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Steam started off with just Valve and grew into other things.

EA is doing exactly the same thing. They are starting out with their own games, and have made it clear that they would like to branch out into digital distribution.

They are following a business model that was done by someone else first.

That means that if they have a problem with supporting such a business model or anything else like it that may come after, they should have started with not helping the business model to become so successful in the first place (aka by not supporting Steam.).

However, these same people are stating their allegiance to Steam while at the same time crucifying any other company who will only be following a trend they helped to create and supported, even till this day.

This "trend" was started almost ten years ago with the release of steam.

If you want to blame someone for creating this trend, blame Valve, Steam and all the supporters that made the trend as popular as it is (becoming).

If no one wanted other publishers to also have their own distribution services, no one should have made steam so popular.

These "implications" they are only now concerned with, existed almost a decade ago when steam was starting out, yet the majority of people saw all the sales/steamlove and went blind all of a sudden, till the day those implications became a reality and now they are dealing with the effects of their role in creating a trend they actually dont care for.

The same people who cry out against BF3 requiring steam, will go into the "NEW COUNTERSTRIKE!!" thread and boast about the thousands of hours they spent supporting the very same trend setter of a trend they are apparently rebelling against.

Madness imo.
Edited by GrizzleBoy - 8/12/11 at 7:45am
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Because said "untrustworthy company" published the game? If you're so vehemently against EA, stay away from their games entirely. Call me up when you find an honest game publisher that is genuinely loved by the community and doesn't care about money.
The beef with Origin and EA has nothing to do with their games. The games are not made by the publisher itself, but rather the developers under it. DICE made BF3 and most if not all BF3 forgoers have no beef with either. What we do have beef with is EA, a company that has almost been as despicable as Activision, Crapcom, and Ubisoft, forcing their own game distribution storefront client down on throat in order to play their games, regardless of developer. Yes we understand this is within their own right and there is nothing "wrong" with their business decision, we simply do not like or agree with their decision. We don't like the company or trust the company enough to handle our games. They have a rather piss poor record of listening to their customers.

With Origin, again we are not saying that this is a bad service in any way. Some of us prefer not to further fragment where our games are gathered. Some of us prefer not to have an unnecessary piece of software on our computers. Some of us do not like that Origin is EA's new pet project to milk increased revenue. Some of us may just not like it. For people who will buy the game regardless, will buy it regardless of distribution method. For me personally, the day they offer BF3 WITHOUT Origin, I would totally buy it. This move by EA was a total deal breaker for me.
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I hope they fix Origin. I haven't been able to log on all week as it states my password or username is incorrect. They can't reset it on their side either. They just say it's an issue and they are working on fixing it... No ETA but just wait it out.

In the meantime, I can't even log on to play BFBC2 because of this.
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To the people who dont buy BF3 due to origin, with the reason its bloatware, you need to wake up a little. In 5 years time, you will not be playing anything because all games will be distributed this way.

P.S. If you think you are making a stand against Origin and EA by not buying the game, think again, the only people you are affecting are yourselves
They can use Origin to distribute the game all they want. I just want the game on Steam. I don't want more clients and I want to be able to use Steam to automagically re install all my games after a format, and I'm not talking about Steam backup.
    
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They can use Origin to distribute the game all they want. I just want the game on Steam. I don't want more clients and I want to be able to use Steam to automagically re install all my games after a format, and I'm not talking about Steam backup.
Like he says, if thats all you want, then prepare to be playing nothing but Valve games in the future when being able to distribute your own games digitally becomes a cakewalk for major publishers.

You can WANT to use nothing but steam till the day you die, but you WILL unfortunately be subjected to the realities of life.
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Like he says, if thats all you want, then prepare to be playing nothing but Valve games in the future when being able to distribute your own games digitally becomes a cakewalk for major publishers.

You can WANT to use nothing but steam till the day you die, but you WILL unfortunately be subjected to the realities of life.
The thing is though... we can fight it as consumers. I'd much rather go down with a fight, I can live with BF2/BC2 and COD4 for a bit longer....
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id rather it be out on steam but its honestly not the end of the world, you can add people to your friends list in game in BC2. I Already have BC2 and Crysis on Origin so i use it already
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