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If you can get me a deal for the same performance, it has to be on newegg. Also suggestions for alternatives are more than welcome, this build will not be going bulldozer anytime soon, but the option is wanted for after a year or two. Hack the list guys.

Edit: rebates are welcome also check promo codes the 955 is $10 off.
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I'd do like I did.
Go for an i3 540-550 and overclock it over 4.5 Ghz, it will smoke any phenoms out there, will cost probably less (or so )
I am at 4.6 Ghz with a 30$ cooler.
Get the 520 watts for 10$ less.
And fancy motherboard with all the kit for me when you are on a budget, I'd grab the cheapest than can overclock decently.

After all, if you buy this all new, you'll want to last it a few years and in a few years you won't upgrade to bulldozer, you will upgrade to something newer.

And is your res 1080p ?
Because I run 1080p without hassle with a single 560Ti which is about 50$ less than a 6950
Edited by Abs.exe - 8/11/11 at 1:29pm
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Looks good to me.That rig is going to kick butt. I sure love the look of Mushkin DDR. Looks are always a bonus. If you are going for a cheap case you might consider the Rosewill one for $30 on Egg that has 4 USB and an E-Sata up front. I just used one of those and I was real happy with it. Several brands are using that same case, I see Xigmatek has their version of it around $30 as well, but I haven't noticed what kind of front panel I/O they have, but you would be getting a nice Xig fan to start out with rather than the feeble ones (2 of them) that came with the Rosewill.
    
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i'd wait til BD comes out, prices may drop on both sides of the isle according to performance. if BD out performs SB, intels prices will lower, if performs the same may stay at what they are.
phenoms may drop like a rock, just to get rid of stock.
and if your not a O.C, phenoms will perform just fine for everyday use and gaming with single card performs just fine.
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Looks good to me.That rig is going to kick butt. I sure love the look of Mushkin DDR. Looks are always a bonus. If you are going for a cheap case you might consider the Rosewill one for $30 on Egg that has 4 USB and an E-Sata up front. I just used one of those and I was real happy with it. Several brands are using that same case, I see Xigmatek has their version of it around $30 as well, but I haven't noticed what kind of front panel I/O they have, but you would be getting a nice Xig fan to start out with rather than the feeble ones (2 of them) that came with the Rosewill.
I liked that case for the price and the fact it had bottom mounted PSU and the cable management, plus the airflow.
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i'd wait til BD comes out, prices may drop on both sides of the isle according to performance. if BD out performs SB, intels prices will lower, if performs the same may stay at what they are.
phenoms may drop like a rock, just to get rid of stock.
and if your not a O.C, phenoms will perform just fine for everyday use and gaming with single card performs just fine.
Well, my friend is buying his build today. But that is true.
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Why are you paying $60 for a 92mm fan cooler...

Here's something that I'm thinking would be much better balanced for your needs:
Phenom II x4 925 + Corsair Vengeance 2x4GB DDR3-1866 combo - $145 shipped, $10 rebate [Newegg]

- $150 shipped [Amazon]
Sunbeam Twister push-pull cooler with TWO 120MM fans included - $20, $7 shipping [Newegg]
eVGA GTX 560 Ti 1GB - $230, $205 after rebate (no wait rebate service/9 day return, for $2 deducted from rebate check!) [Newegg]
Rosewill XTreme Series 750W PSU - $75 shipped [Newegg]
( or ) - $40 shipped [Amazon]
Crucial M4 64GB SATAIII solid state drive - $110 shipped [B&H]
Samsung F3 1TB - $55 shipped [Superbiiz]
- $20 shipped [Amazon]

Phenom II x4 (not unlocked but can reach 4Ghz as with other x4s, procedure is similar to as if you had a 1055T) - 990FX AM3+ - 8GB DDR3-1866 - Push-pull fans/heatsink, overclockability - GTX 560 Ti - 750W PSU for SLI expansion - solid state drive (that's right, within the same budget you get something that was never there before )

Total cost before all rebates, counting shipping: $852
Total cost after 9 days (eVGA no wait rebate): $829 shipped
Total cost after all rebates: $819 shipped

If you don't ever intend to go dual card, drop to a Rosewill Green 530W PSU and a 970 chipset board, and save your cash for the FX.

The i3 550 or 540 is actually still slower than the Phenom II x4 in most modern games, most esp. those that take advantage of 4 cores/threads. During the first gen i3's time, many more people were turning to AMD builds due to not only better value but also better performance. Another good option many will recommend would be the second gen i5/i7 (Intel Sandy Bridge). That's a fine choice for gaming, however taking on a Sandy Bridge will bring the cost of the CPU/mobo/RAM well above the $300 it is right now, which means sacrificies in not only GPU power but the solid state drive may happen as well. The difference in gaming performance can be rather negligible between platforms, with a single card. The Phenom II x4 build I have put together with an SSD would be much more balanced than an LGA1155 build without an SSD, and would be much faster in a lot of different scenarios due to the SSD - just something to keep in mind.
Edited by xd_1771 - 8/11/11 at 3:10pm
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Why are you paying $60 for a 92mm fan cooler...

Here's something that I'm thinking would be much better balanced for your needs:
Phenom II x4 925 + Corsair Vengeance 2x4GB DDR3-1866 combo - $145 shipped, $10 rebate [Newegg]
Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 - $150 shipped [Amazon]
Sunbeam Twister push-pull cooler with TWO 120MM fans included - $20, $7 shipping [Newegg]
eVGA GTX 560 Ti 1GB - $230, $205 after rebate (no wait rebate service/9 day return, for $2 deducted from rebate check!) [Newegg]
Rosewill XTreme Series 750W PSU - $75 shipped [Newegg]
NZXT Source 210 (black or white) - $40 shipped [Amazon]
Crucial M4 64GB SATAIII solid state drive - $110 shipped [B&H]
Samsung F3 1TB - $55 shipped [Superbiiz]
Sony 24X DVD drive - $20 shipped [Amazon]

Phenom II x4 (not unlocked but can reach 4Ghz as with other x4s, procedure is similar to as if you had a 1055T) - 990FX AM3+ - 8GB DDR3-1866 - Push-pull fans/heatsink, overclockability - GTX 560 Ti - 750W PSU for SLI expansion - solid state drive (that's right, within the same budget you get something that was never there before )

Total cost before all rebates, counting shipping: $852
Total cost after 9 days (eVGA no wait rebate): $829 shipped
Total cost after all rebates: $819 shipped

If you don't ever intend to go dual card, drop to a Rosewill Green 530W PSU and a 970 chipset board, and save your cash for the FX.

The i3 550 or 540 is actually still slower than the Phenom II x4 in most modern games, most esp. those that take advantage of 4 cores/threads. During the first gen i3's time, many more people were turning to AMD builds due to not only better value but also better performance. Another good option many will recommend would be the second gen i5/i7 (Intel Sandy Bridge). That's a fine choice for gaming, however taking on a Sandy Bridge will bring the cost of the CPU/mobo/RAM well above the $300 it is right now, which means sacrificies in not only GPU power but the solid state drive may happen as well. The difference in gaming performance can be rather negligible between platforms, with a single card. The Phenom II x4 build I have put together with an SSD would be much more balanced than an LGA1155 build without an SSD, and would be much faster in a lot of different scenarios due to the SSD - just something to keep in mind.
We were hoping to go all newegg so we don't have to shop at 3-4 different places. The SSD would be nice, but you aren't realistically going to be able to fit an OS with programs you use regularly and games. This will be used to game on. Also the 560ti will not touch nearly as much as the 6950 would be able to. Also was looking forward to UEFI bios ASUS has.

I forgot to mention we have a $20 off for newegg. So shipped it is 838.95 with a 6950, which I think will be more prepared for blockbusters like rage, skyrim, ect.

Pretty much $20 more and I see about the same performance... Right? Except for the RAM of course
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The OS takes up less space than you think. On my SSD, an Intel X-25M 80GB (74.4GB formatted), 45.7GB is free. Windows 7 x64 and programs I use regularly (many of which take up multiple GB and are related to video editing) take up only 28.7GB for me. Games of course you are likely not going to be able to fit a lot on the SSD since they can take up a lot of space, but it's still an interesting option since it can fit in the budget. Perhaps the ultra fast Windows boot time will be of interest.

I would say the chipset makes more of a difference than the BIOS style. UEFI vs regular BIOS saves you a couple of seconds and provides you with a nice UI, but is it all that necessary? You can get a full 990FX motherboard (vs a 990X motherboard, I find the M5A99X EVO to be very poorly priced) for a lower price - this means extra features including more PCI-E lanes during CrossfireX/SLI, which helps on higher end video cards and high resolutions. You may also benefit from increased voltage stability during overclocking, as the 990FXA-UD3 has an 8+2 VRM setup.

The 2GB of the 6950 will not make a difference depending on your monitor size.... unless you run 2560x1600 or multi monitor, you will be fine with the 1GB frame buffer of the 560 Ti. The 560 Ti can also overclock to 6970 performance levels.

Purchasing some different places can save you cash in things such as shipping for little to no extra time or inconvenience. Your choice, though.

Perhaps you should combine some suggestions with your own choices - I encourage customizing and balancing PCs based on your needs and style if you have extra cash to spend.
post #10 of 16
Why not get i3-2100 + H61. Cheaper, performs better, uses less energy and produces less heat.
    
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