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The OS takes up less space than you think. On my SSD, an Intel X-25M 80GB (74.4GB formatted), 45.7GB is free. Windows 7 x64 and programs I use regularly (many of which take up multiple GB and are related to video editing) take up only 28.7GB for me. Games of course you are likely not going to be able to fit a lot on the SSD since they can take up a lot of space, but it's still an interesting option since it can fit in the budget. Perhaps the ultra fast Windows boot time will be of interest.

I would say the chipset makes more of a difference than the BIOS style. UEFI vs regular BIOS saves you a couple of seconds and provides you with a nice UI, but is it all that necessary? You can get a full 990FX motherboard (vs a 990X motherboard, I find the M5A99X EVO to be very poorly priced) for a lower price - this means extra features including more PCI-E lanes during CrossfireX/SLI, which helps on higher end video cards and high resolutions. You may also benefit from increased voltage stability during overclocking, as the 990FXA-UD3 has an 8+2 VRM setup.

The 2GB of the 6950 will not make a difference depending on your monitor size.... unless you run 2560x1600 or multi monitor, you will be fine with the 1GB frame buffer of the 560 Ti. The 560 Ti can also overclock to 6970 performance levels.

Purchasing some different places can save you cash in things such as shipping for little to no extra time or inconvenience. Your choice, though.

Perhaps you should combine some suggestions with your own choices - I encourage customizing and balancing PCs based on your needs and style if you have extra cash to spend.
I think I am going to go 990fx. I never really thought about it that way. As far as the other things go I will run them by him. I though the 560ti compared to a 470. Would a 570 be a choice? Or are they too expensive?

Slightly off topic, I was going to rep you xd, but then I remembered you are a moderator now. You're always so helpful. Do you ever miss getting rep?

Back on topic haha. SDDs are ever so taunting, but as it is, I feel I can forgo the slightly longer boot time and program boot times, and frankly until they start making games that recommend a SSD sata IV or V or whatever it will be by then I think I can get away with HDDs, at least until the price of SSDs gets to a better size/price ratio.

My friend wants to spend around 800-850 after rebates and stuff, he also doesn't want to skimp out either, so I am trying to get him the best gaming performance for his buck.

I guess I will price match with other sites before I buy, but hey at least if I get the items down then when it comes to picking out the site, it is merely a battle of price.

What do you think of this now? V

Edited by caleb - 8/12/11 at 5:14am
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Sandy Bridge for 50 dollars less?

And before anyone says "The X4 will game better" Will it eh?




Edited by ecnelitsep - 8/13/11 at 7:05am
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^ I have mentioned that LGA1155 presents a good alternate option. A 955 with overclocked CPU and NorthBridge/IMC frequency will provide similar framerates and negligible difference however. If fully multithreaded apps (i.e. editing video) are of concern, the 955 again wins. Fully multithreadead games, same goes. Both platforms are futureproof with possibility of upgrading to future processors.

It is known that SSDs can sometimes actually improve the framerate of some games. Crysis (and Crysis 2 I think) benefits largely from an SSD.

The new build is better, but I think you're still spending too much on that heatsink $60 for heatsink using 92mm fans... might as well get an NH-D14 for $10-20 more! There is a dual core Sunbeam cooler on Newegg for $27 shipped which uses 120MM fans and performs better.
There are a couple other better parts options that could save you up to $30 (i.e. case choice) Unless of course, price is not so huge a concern to you.

A 570 is a great choice actually (though most reference design 570s are not very overclockable due to - you guessed it - small power phase!) and is a step up from the 560 Ti, however probably not really a necessary one. I usually don't suggest GPUs bigger than a 560 Ti unless the screen is bigger than 1920x1080.
Edited by xd_1771 - 8/13/11 at 11:52am
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^ I have mentioned that LGA1155 presents a good alternate option. A 955 with overclocked CPU and NorthBridge/IMC frequency will provide similar framerates and negligible difference however. If fully multithreaded apps (i.e. editing video) are of concern, the 955 again wins. Fully multithreadead games, same goes. Both platforms are futureproof with possibility of upgrading to future processors.

It is known that SSDs can sometimes actually improve the framerate of some games. Crysis (and Crysis 2 I think) benefits largely from an SSD.

The new build is better, but I think you're still spending too much on that heatsink $60 for heatsink using 92mm fans... might as well get an NH-D14 for $10-20 more! There is a dual core Sunbeam cooler on Newegg for $27 shipped which uses 120MM fans and performs better.
There are a couple other better parts options that could save you up to $30 (i.e. case choice) Unless of course, price is not so huge a concern to you.

A 570 is a great choice actually (though most reference design 570s are not very overclockable due to - you guessed it - small power phase!) and is a step up from the 560 Ti, however probably not really a necessary one. I usually don't suggest GPUs bigger than a 560 Ti unless the screen is bigger than 1920x1080.
To the 570 we are just looking to get some future proofing and for under $20 more after rebates than the 6950...why not? To the 92mm Heatsink. My biggest concern is getting a tower Heatsink and it being to big to close the door. With no reviews on the case I have lined up, after cable management and the mobo standoffs I am afraid I won't be able to close the door. I ran into this problem with the 120mm CM I have. This was because of a case fan on the case door. But I don't have cable management behind my mobo so with. I was going to go noctua just for the hell of it. But if someone has a Heatsink that is 92mm and will perform at the same level with the noctua then suggest it. Because I agree 60 for a 92mm heat sink is pushing it.
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I see. Do you already have that Sentey case? (It is deactivated on Newegg); it is 19CM wide and will take heatsinks with 120MM fans. The fact that they use a 120MM fan gives you a reference as to how tall a heatsink you can use; an I/O shield is 46mm tall. Take away about 14mm for the standoffs/PCB/socket, and add another 12mm for the space between the I/O shield and the fan, and the fan and the case. It looks like you can use up to 150-160MM tall heatsinks, such as the 153mm Sunbeam Core Contact Freezer or 152mm CNPS10X Performa. A case fan on the case door can be removed; I find it makes little to no difference above the CPU socket - and where it makes difference above the GPU, a front fan also blowing towards GPU does the same thing. My P180 has no side fan, but my GPU runs cooler than when I had my K58W.
Edited by xd_1771 - 8/14/11 at 12:53pm
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Ok, well I just went ahead and added the hyper 212+ like I have in my current system. and added a pull fan.

The sently is still on newegg, at least it still says that it is in stock.
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