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So I've been looking into getting a desktop for a while now, and decided that it needs to be mITX because I'm kinda cramped for space. It'll be my first build in a year or two, and my first ever with anything not ATX, so I'm kinda apprehensive about going it alone. It'll be used for gaming, emulation (GC &PS2), and some GPU programming with CUDA. Basically, here's what I'm looking at:

Case: Lian Li PC Q07, or something of a similar size. I'm very open to suggestions on this front.
CPU: i5 2500k, I want some ability to OC due to the emulation/gaming requirements. Any good 3rd party SFFs/fans for this?
GPU: Not sure, either a 560 or 460. I guess it depends on the case. Has to be nVidia though, as I'll be using CUDA for some programming stuff for school.
Mobo: Not sure about this either, I guess the best bang/buck Z68 mobo I can get?
HDD: Just a regular 3.5 or maybe 2.5 1TB should suffice, I don't need/want an SSD just yet.
CD/DVD: Again, just something standard. I could probably just pick out the HDD and this myself last-minute.
RAM: any 4GB at 1066 or higher should suffice. I'd rather take faster RAM than more RAM, though.
PSU: depends on if the case comes with one I guess. Something good but not excessive.

And that's it! I have a general idea of what I want but really narrowing down the parts is kind of troublesome as I don't know what each case can really do in terms of cable management/space/etc. Any help is appreciated!
post #2 of 17
What's your budget?

Here's what I helped my friend build recently. $1100ish for a pretty powerful mini-ITX system
  • CPU: i5 2500k $200(microcenter/frys)
  • Mobo: Zotac Z68ITX-B-E $220 (overpriced, but there's only 2 Z68 mini-ITX boards available right now, ASRock's should be by end of month, so not much options here; no P67 boards I'm aware of, other choices are all H67)
  • RAM: GSkill Ripjaws X 8GB (2x4GB) should be $60ish, i got em at 50 during newegg sale
  • SSD: Crucial M4 128GB (Swap for HDD if you wish) $200
  • GPU: Asus GTX 560ti DirectCuII - $250
  • Case: Silverstone Sugo 05 450W version $120
  • Cooling: Corsair H60 -$60
  • ODD: None, just used external USB DVD to install Windows

We took out the ODD + HDD cage, and mounted the SSD on bottom of case, leaves room to tidy cables and allow better airflow from the single 120mm fan in front

The Sugo is roughly the same volume as the Q07, but rather than be tall, it's long.
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One more vote for the sg-05bb-450. Awesome case. Mine should be here tomorrow. I will post pics, but there are already a few builds on this site with that case.

And I would highly suggest a 120GB+ SSD. They are amazing.
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Thanks Jonowxeno! My budget is preferably <$900 but I'm willing to stretch it a little. Coupla questions, though:

Mobo: I'd be willing to wait if there's a significant price difference. I don't have experience with ASrock mobos though, are they considered OK for OCing as far as BIOS options go?
CPU cooler: I definitely want to OC, but I heard the 2500k is fine with air coolers, will the liquid cooler make much of a difference? I've never used one, so as long as its not too high maintenance and offers some nice performance differences I'm up to try it.
Case: Looks great! I trust the stock PSU is pretty decent, right? I guess with a 80+ bronze certification it must be. Is it also able to fit everything in without the need for anything weird like right angle cables?


I don't think I'll go for an SSD this time around. I do want to try one, but it just adds too much to the cost for my taste. Maybe my next build. Memory is also really cheap now, so I guess I can have my cake and eat it too, hah, 8GB at 1600 for so cheap sounds great. GPU looks good, too. I think the only thing holding back my decision now is the mobo. Thanks for the help and suggestions, guys
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Just an FYI, the Q07B (My sigrig...) Will not fit a GTX560.
It wont take a card over 8".
    
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post #6 of 17
Jonowxeno has a great build there... but if you want to not go SSD route yet and want it ~ $900

CPU: i5 2500k $200
Mobo: Zotac Z68ITX-A-E $170 (B-E has an integrated Nvidia 430 which is not needed as you have a dedicated GPU and only has a PCIe x4 not a x16)
RAM: GSkill Ripjaws X 8GB (2x4GB) $60
SSD: Western Digital Scorpio Black WD5000BEKT 500GB 7200 RPM $70
GPU: Asus GTX 560ti DirectCuII - $250 (9" long)
Case: Silverstone Sugo 05 450W $120
Cooling: Corsair H60 $60

Comes out to $930

You can go air cooling as well and a regular 3.5" HDD or a 2.5" HDD if you decide not to go H60 and keep the drive support so there is different combos you can do here...

Air cooling - Scythe Big Shuriken $40, need a low heatsinked ram, Samsung F3 1TB $60 which would bring it to $900

I'd prefer if you can spend more get the SUGO 07 (600w PSU, better airflow w/ 180mm fan in front, and 120mm fan on top and if going this route, i would get the h60 and place it on top with the 120mm fan and longer case for future expansion if need to go GTX570 or 6970) for a Case and a SSD (M4's are great) and GPU's can change from ASUS 560TI DCII, MSI 560TI TF2, or MSI 6950 2GB TF2
Edited by ogboba - 8/12/11 at 8:36am
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yes, that PSU is our best option, and is very capable.
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Originally Posted by kiruyama View Post
Thanks Jonowxeno! My budget is preferably <$900 but I'm willing to stretch it a little. Coupla questions, though:

Mobo: I'd be willing to wait if there's a significant price difference. I don't have experience with ASrock mobos though, are they considered OK for OCing as far as BIOS options go?
CPU cooler: I definitely want to OC, but I heard the 2500k is fine with air coolers, will the liquid cooler make much of a difference? I've never used one, so as long as its not too high maintenance and offers some nice performance differences I'm up to try it.
Case: Looks great! I trust the stock PSU is pretty decent, right? I guess with a 80+ bronze certification it must be. Is it also able to fit everything in without the need for anything weird like right angle cables?

I don't think I'll go for an SSD this time around. I do want to try one, but it just adds too much to the cost for my taste. Maybe my next build. Memory is also really cheap now, so I guess I can have my cake and eat it too, hah, 8GB at 1600 for so cheap sounds great. GPU looks good, too. I think the only thing holding back my decision now is the mobo. Thanks for the help and suggestions, guys
The ASRock should be cheaper, but there's no exact pricing yet. They used to be part of Asus and I haven't had issues with their boards so far. How far it will OC is yet unknown since it's not released.

Air Coolers will be fine, just a matter of finding a low profile one if you go this route. The H60 is the same amount of maintenance as air coolers since it's a closed loop.

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Originally Posted by ogboba View Post
Air cooling - Scythe Big Shuriken $40, need a low heatsinked ram, Samsung F3 1TB $60 which would bring it to $900
I think the Scythe Big Shuriken will be very close to the back PCB of the video card. Definitely requires low height RAM. Samsung F3 1TB is definitely a good 3.5" drive option.

The Sugo series have great PSUs, everything will fit, right angle will help a little for HDDs. If you do use a slim DVD drive, you'll need the slim SATA adapter for it.

Can go for a less expensive GPU to save money. GTX 460 1GB will fit easily and is still a capable GPU, should save you $70-100 off the 560ti
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post #9 of 17
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Originally Posted by Jonowxeno View Post
The ASRock should be cheaper, but there's no exact pricing yet. They used to be part of Asus and I haven't had issues with their boards so far. How far it will OC is yet unknown since it's not released.

Air Coolers will be fine, just a matter of finding a low profile one if you go this route. The H60 is the same amount of maintenance as air coolers since it's a closed loop.

I think the Scythe Big Shuriken will be very close to the back PCB of the video card. Definitely requires low height RAM. Samsung F3 1TB is definitely a good 3.5" drive option.

The Sugo series have great PSUs, everything will fit, right angle will help a little for HDDs. If you do use a slim DVD drive, you'll need the slim SATA adapter for it.

Can go for a less expensive GPU to save money. GTX 460 1GB will fit easily and is still a capable GPU, should save you $70-100 off the 560ti
Sounds good, I think I'll stick with the 560 and try out the H60 for cooling.

Thanks for all the responses guys. Using ogboba's template as a base I came up with this:

CPU: i5 2500k
Mobo: Zotac Z68ITX-A-E (thanks for clarifying the differences between the two, I missed the onboard GPU), maybe ASrock if some new details surface in the next week or two.
RAM: GSkill Ripjaws X 8GB
GPU: GTX 560ti DirectCuII
Case: Sugo 05 450W
Cooling: Corsair H60, might as well give liquid cooling a try, sounds fun
SSD: Crucial M4 128GB

After much deliberation, I decided that maybe an SSD would be more beneficial since I have some external HDDs for storage already. I'll only be using a few programs anyways, but very often, so truthfully space shouldn't be an issue. If I go with a 2.5" SSD like the M4, would I still be able to fit in a 3.5" DVD drive without any problem? And does this build require anything like low profile RAM that I missed? I wasn't in a rush to build this but its pretty exciting since I'll be trying out quite a few new things, makes me want to pull the trigger sooner than I should
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