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hes right it had nothing to do with the 6990 and if it was they are nearly impossible to find at the moment anyway.
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Off the top of my head I thinks specs are.
17 960
gigabyte ud3r mobo
8gbs ram (speed unknown)
120gb vertxe2 ssd
2x Radeon 6870
some storage drive like 2TB or something
coolermaster HAF X case.

so i dont think hell be bottlenecking with his systems only 8 or nine months old.
That setup would beat a single 580 in raw power anyway, by roughly 15-20%...

Going to a single 580 would be, at most, a side-grade...

IMO, hold out till Southern Islands/Kelper and make decisions then on your upgrade paths...

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hes got cooling problems because the cards are so close together and he wants 3d so I suggested GTX 580 3gb.
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hes got cooling problems because the cards are so close together and he wants 3d so I suggested GTX 580 3gb.
I switched from AMD to Nvidia for 3D vision myself. I got the GTX 580 1.5GB card and on a single monitor extra VRM wouldn't improve my FPS. What would is another 1.5Gb card in SLI though to be honest I'm getting by just fine except for heavy graphics games like Metro 2033 where I turn down some settings to get by. Crysis 2 maxed settings is 55-60 FPS in 3D for me, and I'm happy as that's my main game until BF3 comes out.

In your friends case then I'd strongly suggest one GTX 590 then. It will keep him at maxed 60 FPS in 3D vision and cooler then two cards sandwiched together.

Thanks for telling us more about your friends situation. Go the GTX 590 up front, better than one GTX 580 3GB for 3D as it's a DUAL GPU. The extra VRM only comes into play with multiple monitors.
     
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That setup would beat a single 580 in raw power anyway, by roughly 15-20%...

Going to a single 580 would be, at most, a side-grade...
So your saying that 2-HD6870's are faster than a GTX580???

What planet are you getting your information from?
That is the most incorrect statement I've heard.

One 6870 isn't even as fast as the 5870.
The 6870 is a mid range card, not a high end card.

Now if you were thinking of the 6970, I would agree.

Feel free to prove your statement.
Sorry, but your posting misinformation.
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So your saying that 2-HD6870's are faster than a GTX580???

What planet are you getting your information from?
That is the most incorrect statement I've heard.

One 6870 isn't even as fast as the 5870.
The 6870 is a mid range card, not a high end card.

Now if you were thinking of the 6970, I would agree.

Feel free to prove your statement.
Sorry, but your posting misinformation.
Two 6870 are most certainly faster than a GTX 580. Read any 6870 crossfire review and you'll see for yourself...
    
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So your saying that 2-HD6870's are faster than a GTX580???

What planet are you getting your information from?
That is the most incorrect statement I've heard.

One 6870 isn't even as fast as the 5870.
The 6870 is a mid range card, not a high end card.

Now if you were thinking of the 6970, I would agree.

Feel free to prove your statement.
Sorry, but your posting misinformation.


Here is a couple screenshots form the 3dmark11 thread

6870 Crossfired:

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Single 580 @ 1GHz:

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Originally Posted by McDown View Post
Core:1000
Shader: 2000
Memory: 2200



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So your saying that 2-HD6870's are faster than a GTX580???

What planet are you getting your information from?
That is the most incorrect statement I've heard.

One 6870 isn't even as fast as the 5870.
The 6870 is a mid range card, not a high end card.

Now if you were thinking of the 6970, I would agree.

Feel free to prove your statement.
Sorry, but your posting misinformation.
Mate, try researching before you attempt to flame me...



17 FPS difference, or approximately 19%...

6870's compete with SLI 560Ti's which are also faster then a single 580...

2x midrange > 1x highrange in most instances...

Credibility... You don't have it.

EDIT: Back on topic...
OP: the 590 would be his optimum choice for single card power, heat and noise, especially chasing every last FPS for 3d gaming, I think he should save up the further dollars...

Gainward 590 from PC case gear for $829
Edited by Ishinomori - 8/12/11 at 1:56am
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Two 6870 are most certainly faster than a GTX 580. Read any 6870 crossfire review and you'll see for yourself...
Could you link to a review as it would be easier to understand your argument with that link.

In the mean time, I found this review:

http://techreport.com/articles.x/20043

It basically agrees with your point of HD6870 CF give better FPS than single GTX580.

I would say that it is marginal though and the OP needs to consider the following points also:

1. The GTX580 is around 5dB quieter (if thats important)
2. The HD 6870 CF is only 3 degrees hotter so you may not save much on temperature reduction - will this be good enough, or do you need to consider other methods of heat reduction.
3. HD6870 CF only really pulls away from the GTX580 in higher settings with higher res and as you are running 1080p it seems not to make to much difference between HD6870 CF and GTX580.
4. a single card can be better than a dual card set up as you can alwaysd add a secind GTX 580 to upgrade later on (if you can deal with the heat!)
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3x GTX 580 3gb, nuff said
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