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Hey guys,

I have been reading so much regarding monitors that I can no longer take it. I hope you can help me make my decision.

I just built a new rig, and originally thought my old monitor would make me happy enough, but it is about 7 years old and needs to be replaced badly. I have been researching 23 inch monitors but can not make a final decision mainly because everytime I think I found a nice one, I read a post about how bad the input lag or ghosting is on that model.

I am primary going to game on this monitor, so little to no input lag is a must as well as a low response time. I am on a 200 USD budget and here is what I am looking for:

2 MS or better, no input lag (hard to find this spec, hoping your experience can help), 23" (could be 24, but prefer 23 cause of my distance to the screen), 1920 x 1080 res, and I prefer a matte screen.

Sounds simple, but I just can not find the perfect gaming monitor without going much higher in price. Please help suggest some monitors and why you like them. Thank you so much for any assistance you can give me.
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...059&Tpk=vh236h
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response times are margeting bogus. The method they use to test it is not adequate to determine the amount of ghosting the display will have. Therefore requiring 2ms is just useless.

Anyhow, the asus VH series is good, if you want that. mksteez already linked one monitor in that series.


You could also go with http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...=asus%20ml239h
This one would have more ghosting, but better viewing angles (by a lot) and a somewhat noticeable improvement in colors in general, but would have more backlight bleed and horrible OSD controls. As I s aid, it's useless to require 2ms since the number tells you nothing, when it's supposed to tell you about ghosting. Now, this monitor does have a bit more ghosting than the VH series would, but the image quality is somewhat better.
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Thank both of you. Thanks for the explanation of the two De-Zant. It is good to know about that the method they use to measure "ghosting" is in accurate. I see the pros and cons of those two Asus monitors.

How do you feel about this monitor? Asus has so many models, I am not sure of all the differences of them, and their site does not help out. This monitor has the "specs", but like you mentioned, they may not mean a lot so I guess i am asking if you have herd anything good / bad about it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824236117
It looks like a little higher model than the one above, but I am not sure what the difference is.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824236175
This one looks pretty much the same, but in a slimmer design without speakers?

Basically, do both of those models have little to no ghosting and input lag just like the first one mentioned above? Again, sorry for the noob questions, I just want to make sure I don't end up buying something that is not great for my primary use of gaming.

Also, once I get it, should I hook it up via DVI or HDMI for the best full HD 1080 picture I can get? Does it matter?
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It's not technically "inaccurate". It just isn't useful for determening ghosting in actual usage.

I am not sure on the differences, not sure what the VS series holds. The VH238h is generally considered a good monitor among gamers as well for the budget, but I have no idea about the VS one. I'd go with the VH one since it has a sturdier stand.

DVI and HDMI are the same internally aside from HDMI being able to carry sound. I suggest you use DVI though, since some GPU drivers have issues with HDMI that are easier to avoid than fix, though they are easy to fix as well, nontheless.
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Another person seeking a new monitor on the forum recently bought the VS monitor and I PM'd him seeking information on it. It looks solid. I personally bought the VE247H and had to send them back. They were beautiful displays but the ghosting of text on a light-grayish background was extremely noticeable. It could also be noticed when dragging around Icon's on certain color wallpapers. If the VS has these issues fixed then it will probably be what I will exchange too. If not, then I guess something in the VH but the VS look rather aesthetically pleasing so if they are solid then
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The overdrive "ghosting" on the VE series is (as far as I know, at least on most of the models) possible to turn off by disabling it in the options. I do not have 100% confirmation on this though.
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Originally Posted by De-Zant View Post
The overdrive "ghosting" on the VE series is (as far as I know, at least on most of the models) possible to turn off by disabling it in the options. I do not have 100% confirmation on this though.
Yeah. You hold down the Menu button while powering up the monitor. I'm not sure if there are any negative effects to this and while it did fix the ghosting, you have to do it every single time you turn on the monitor/it goes to sleep/the resolution changes/anything as the settings don't save. Pretty lame.

Edit: Err. I accidentally overlooked his thread. He made one reviewing the monitor here.

I followed up my PM apologizing for the confusion (since I PM'd him asking if he received it yet lol) and asked him a few questions to see if the monitor has the same problem as the VE series in terms of the extremely easy to notice ghosting on gray backgrounds. I'll report back his response if he doesn't post on this thread.
Edited by Logistic - 8/12/11 at 5:09am
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It does have the issue. It really just depends on the consumer. Some will notice it and it will be a glaring eye sore, others will not notice it at all and enjoy the monitor as it does have a great display.

I decided to go the Dell UltraSharp route personally.
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