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at this point with a hodgepodge of junk nothing is going to make much of a difference, buy what you can afford, if you want to, now... your budget and desire to do things the wrong way can not be improved upon... perfume on a pig, as they say...

later, when you are ready to do it the right way... start with quality subs and an amp you can afford then you can modify the box to optimize the quality...
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I totally understand what you're saying, LiNERROR, but I won't have the cash to do a huge upgrade for everything at once for a long, long time.

I'm a teenager working a dead-end job while trying to pay for a car and save up for college. In other words, audio isn't first in my list of priorities. I just got a little bit of extra money and thought this would be a fun project.

So what do you think would be a better "first step" towards improving the box itself? Cutting the whole thing in half, or just sealing off part of each enclosure?

Also, would it be better to start by buying a dedicated subwoofer amp, or should I get the new subs first?
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I totally understand what you're saying, LiNERROR, but I won't have the cash to do a huge upgrade for everything at once for a long, long time.

I'm a teenager working a dead-end job while trying to pay for a car and save up for college. In other words, audio isn't first in my list of priorities. I just got a little bit of extra money and thought this would be a fun project.

So what do you think would be a better "first step" towards improving the box itself? Cutting the whole thing in half, or just sealing off part of each enclosure?

Also, would it be better to start by buying a dedicated subwoofer amp, or should I get the new subs first?
Get the subs first, amp next. You need to match the amp with the subs, impedance and power wise. Box wise, leave it ALONE until you get the subs, the box has to be built by spec to match the subs.

Give me a budget, and I'll help you figure out where to start.

I built my home theater sub for $70. Granted I cheated and bought a prefabbed, used setup off craigslist (Polk dB 12 and Obcon 32Hz ported box), and reused my powerful receiver as an amp, that's stable at 2ohms.

Also, get me the model number (or even better yet, the manual) to the receiver you plan to use as an amp. It MIGHT work, if it can handle a 2ohm or 4ohm load.
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Thanks pioneerisloud, I like the name by the way. My receiver is a Denon DRA-375RD, which I'm 90% sure can only handle a 8 ohm load. I was able to get the manual from here.

With that setup for $70, you sound like you're either extremely lucky, or have awesome bargaining skills.

But right now, my budget is about $200 for everything, whatever that may be. Right now for the subwoofer, I'm really liking the look of this for $100, but I could step up to this for $175, if it's worth it.

I might be able to snag a receiver/amp on the cheap from a friend, he works at a car audio shop.
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Thanks pioneerisloud, I like the name by the way. My receiver is a Denon DRA-375RD, which I'm 90% sure can only handle a 8 ohm load. I was able to get the manual from here.

With that setup for $70, you sound like you're either extremely lucky, or have awesome bargaining skills.

But right now, my budget is about $200 for everything, whatever that may be. Right now for the subwoofer, I'm really liking the look of this for $100, but I could step up to this for $175, if it's worth it.

I might be able to snag a receiver/amp on the cheap from a friend, he works at a car audio shop.
Neither of those subs gets my vote.....

Try to step into a TC Sounds EPIC 12. You'll need either 1ohm power or 4ohm power for that sub (probably will use 4ohm).

Power wise, that sub will take 750-1000w RMS daily EASILY. It'll run okay off lesser though. But if you're using a receiver to power it, you'll definitely want to make sure you have a low pass crossover set.

You can also look into the Fi SSD line too. There's a TON of other options, but those two would get my vote for loudness + good sound for a home theater.

Box wise, you're looking at probably 3 cuft ported for either (as a rough guess, I'd have to fire up my software).
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I am planning on doing 2 subwoofers, and as much as I want it, wouldn't two of something like the TC Sounds be incredibly overkill?

I guess I could just step down to one sub, but it just seems like a lot of money to spent all at once...

And thanks again for taking time to help me out, man.
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I am planning on doing 2 subwoofers, and as much as I want it, wouldn't two of something like the TC Sounds be incredibly overkill?

I guess I could just step down to one sub, but it just seems like a lot of money to spent all at once...

And thanks again for taking time to help me out, man.
I promise you that single TC Sounds 12 will be overkill for MOST home theater uses, especially in the right enclosure, and a ton of power. Forget trying to build a 6cuft box...focus on making the RIGHT enclosure for the sub you choose.
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https://www.edesignaudio.com/index.php

Great subs, great prices!

Dream setup: e5.12 Subwoofer with a passive radiator with about 2.5 cubes with 500 watt dayton bash amp and it can do 15Hz at 105 dB or 110 at 20hz WITHOUT room gain!

A2-300 is what I'm currently running and its nothing but amazing and I'm an audiophile (building my own speaker)!
Edited by Nick911 - 8/15/11 at 5:27pm
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That large an enclosure is probably going to sound like crap TBH. That size would be for a medium sized theater and have a large sub with alot of power.
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Dream setup: e5.12 Subwoofer with a passive radiator with about 2.5 cubes with 500 watt dayton bash amp and it can do 15Hz at 105 dB or 110 at 20hz WITHOUT room gain!
If you ever start on it, I will donate $10 to that lovely vision.

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I promise you that single TC Sounds 12 will be overkill for MOST home theater uses, especially in the right enclosure, and a ton of power. Forget trying to build a 6cuft box...focus on making the RIGHT enclosure for the sub you choose.
I do understand how huge the box is, and I'll definitely be willing to cut it down a bit, but lengthwise, it fits perfectly in the cubby underneath my TV, and finding another spot that a subwoofer could fit might be a bit of a challenge.

I'm running this off of a HTPC, so the computer is doing the 'crossing-over.' And for software, what do you recommend? I always screw with WinISD for "dream builds," but I'm not quite sure how accurate it is.
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