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So after being told by a uni lecturer just how useful RAID can be for video editing I've decided my next build should be using RAID. Although despite researching it as best I can (both on google and on here) there's a few questions I just need clarifying:

With a good motherboard (not bought yet as waiting on Ivy Bridge) would the onboard RAID controller be sufficient? I'm only looking at a RAID 0 at the moment.

Also if I'm using a harddrive then add a second one later (exactly the same harddrive) will I be able to set it up in RAID 0 without loosing data or is it a total reformat?

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So after being told by a uni lecturer just how useful RAID can be for video editing I've decided my next build should be using RAID. Although despite researching it as best I can (both on google and on here) there's a few questions I just need clarifying:

With a good motherboard (not bought yet as waiting on Ivy Bridge) would the onboard RAID controller be sufficient? I'm only looking at a RAID 0 at the moment.

Also if I'm using a harddrive then add a second one later (exactly the same harddrive) will I be able to set it up in RAID 0 without loosing data or is it a total reformat?

Thanks
Generally the onbaord RAID controller is plenty for RAID 0.
Without a backup, you will not be able to keep your data.
    
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Regarding your second question, RAID 0 stripes the data across the drives, so you won't be able to just pop in a second HDD and turn on RAID. You'll want (need?) to do a clean install once you get both drives.
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Thanks. Also is there any particular harddrive that's better for RAID? I know seagate is a definite no but that's pretty much all I know
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Some hardware cards will allow you expand a single drive RAID0 array onto 2+ drives - but onboard controllers can't do it.

And as you need to have the initial disk set up as a single drive RAID0 by the card (not just put your drive onto the controller first) it isn't much benefit anyway...
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Some hardware cards will allow you expand a single drive RAID0 array onto 2+ drives - but onboard controllers can't do it.
I figured there was some way this was possible... How would this work, though? I assume the controller would just rearrange the data across the array?

Are Samsung F3s good for RAID 0?
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I figured there was some way this was possible... How would this work, though? I assume the controller would just rearrange the data across the array?

Are Samsung F3s good for RAID 0?
pretty much - the controller just copies the data around between the drives til it's all set up properly. If you interupt the process and move the drives around you'll lose everything though (and a backup is always recommended), so there is little benefit in actually doing it unless the system really has to be online the whole time. Backing up, shutting down and restoring is much quicker and more reliable overall.

The F3s generally run well in RAID - better than pretty much all the other non-enterprise versions. Never had an issue with any myself, but I never had them that long (went up to F4EGs not in RAID for storage, and SSDs for OS use).
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I figured there was some way this was possible... How would this work, though? I assume the controller would just rearrange the data across the array?

Are Samsung F3s good for RAID 0?
The cards that are able to do this are generally very expensive....
That is exactly what it does.
F3's are awesome for RAID
    
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Have you considered moving over to SSDs from HDDs. Their speed increase is substantial. Not trying to rain on your parade, just a suggestion to consider it.
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Have you considered moving over to SSDs from HDDs. Their speed increase is substantial. Not trying to rain on your parade, just a suggestion to consider it.
Yeah plan is to get a 120gb SSD for programmes and then get the RAID setup for the HDD. Hopefully in the near future there'll be affordable SSDs for those giant HD video files.
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