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guyladouche, did you read the story?

"Stevens admits that his biggest hurdle isn’t the thorium and laser aspects of the system, but the mini turbines which have to be made small enough to fit inside a vehicle while generating enough electricity. Even so, Stevens believes he’ll have a working prototype by 2014 and the potential to not only replace, but improve upon the gasoline-powered engines we rely on today."

He admits that mini turbines are "his biggest hurdle". In other words, he is saying it would be easier if the turbines are physically larger (not to be confused with larger in quantity).

aroc91 calls this a scam and I tend to agree. Mobile thorium reactor is very wishful thinking. Can he at least demonstrate a non-miniature, working, stationary, prototype laser-thorium reactor? So far, it appears all he has to show is paper work.
Edited by Partol - 8/13/11 at 5:00pm
     
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Once the oil runs out, they'll be looking for a new resource to make money.
Not only will they allow it, they'll encourage it.
na. they'll want to sell a resource that has a constant need. people will pay more if they pay over time, as they don't realize how much they're paying. a one time resource can't have it's price tag hidden.
    
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Does anyone know/guess how no emissions will be produced? Wouldn't there be nuclear waste?
    
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Does anyone know/guess how no emissions will be produced? Wouldn't there be nuclear waste?
Nuclear reactions produce heat by changing the atomic structure of an element. Without needing to burn anything, there are no emissions.

The thorium will decay into a more stable element after fizzling out, but it will produce a tiny amount less mass than the parent element. So, you're looking at under 8g after the lifetime of the engine passes.
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So no one else finds the 250MW thing ridiculous? Christ, a full blown nuclear reactor only produces around 2000MW.
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So no one else finds the 250MW thing ridiculous? Christ, a full blown nuclear reactor only produces around 2000MW.
Absolutely. That's a ludicrous amount of energy.
    
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Electric cars are terrible because, over-night, the electric grid can't handle 10M new electric cars? Of course the electric grid can't handle that right now. If people buy enough electric cars, then the grid can be upgraded, gradually, as electricity demand increases.

Batteries are not always required for home solar-electric systems. Some electric power companies will give credits for surplus solar electric energy generated during the day, and some charge lower rates at night, when electric useage is low. Lots of people in California have home solar-electric systems while still connected to the grid.

By the way, when you buy coal instead of petroleum, that money probably stays within your country. There is a significant economic difference between buying coal from locals and buying petroleum from foreigners.
Problem is who is going to pay for it? They wont...they will crawl to the government and get the money out of our taxes. Even though they have racked in BILLIONS they will screw us out of it. Last thing we need is a trillion+ dollar upgrade.
    
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I understand that you could protect this stuff from the environment in the event of a crash by using any number of tough metals to surround the material...but how would you cool it? Wouldn't you need the cooling system to be contained as well? Especially since if the cooling system is shot in a crash, then that's a problem. If so, then we're not just talking about containing and protecting a test tube from a crash, but much more. And as the volume of space you need to protect goes up, the size and weight of the containment goes up exponentially. I just don't see how any car/fuel company, government entity, or insurance company could green-light this and put themselves at this great of risk. 250M mobile nuclear reactors would be completely unprecedented.
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okay lets say all this works out what about the price of it? if its only one per car then what? if i decide to buy a newer model of that car from the OP would i have to spend another who knows $$$ on the 8 grams.
    
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Once the oil runs out, they'll be looking for a new resource to make money.
Not only will they allow it, they'll encourage it.
Eventually. It will likely play out like DuPont and CFCs. They were the major producer of CFCs and fought tooth and nail to prevent them from being banned, going so far as to fund studies saying that there was no harm being done. As soon as they developed a substitute, they were at the forefront of the banning party and pushed their competitors out.

You can expect the same thing here. Exxon et al. will be screaming "ZOMG! Radiationz killz!" right up to the point where they have the thorium market cornered then you'll see a massive public campaign about how safe it is.

Of course, that is assuming that this isn't all a bunch of hokum.

Quote:
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So no one else finds the 250MW thing ridiculous? Christ, a full blown nuclear reactor only produces around 2000MW.
I can only assume that it was a typo. Either that or this whole thing is bull.
Edited by RaBidRaBit - 8/14/11 at 12:41am
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