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Absolutely. That's a ludicrous amount of energy.
ship sized gas turbines only produce about 350mw right???
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when i read the title my mind went

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i say we just stay with solar energy since it's safer and renewable. Remember guys oil was first used as a fuel, we thought we would never run out, but look at us now. Solar energy will run out in about 5 billion years when the sun dies out. By then we'll either be extinct or an advanced species capable of space travel. Remember the word SAFER too.
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i say we just stay with solar energy since it's safer and renewable. Remember guys oil was first used as a fuel, we thought we would never run out, but look at us now. Solar energy will run out in about 5 billion years when the sun dies out. By then we'll either be extinct or an advanced species capable of space travel. Remember the word SAFER too.
The big thing to remember with solar energy is "inefficient."

IIRC a 'good' solar panel harvests almost 10% of energy in sunlight.
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After reading this through all the way I had a couple thoughts I hoped to share...
THe thorium powered vehicle thing seems like a nice concept, however the reality of it based upon the sources cited seems rather far fetched. (The validity of the site that is proposing this Thorium Vehicle, that is)

As to electric cars and how "great" they are, well they aren't the be all end all.
They all still use huge cell stacks made from the same cells that power your laptop or your power drill. (18650 cell typically the LiMn kind and rated at about 10C per cell with an average of 12-1400mAh capacity)
Basically, battery technology is crap right now. There are advances being made in the field, but they are slow to come and require more time to mature and come to the consumer end of the market.
Not to mention disposal of the aforementioned cells at end of life...
Solar power is nice and can net measurable savings, but this is also at a great initial cost on the end of the consumer as well as a terrible efficiency rating over all as the market and tech presently stands.
On to the discussion of 300+Bhp vehicles being overpowered or ridiculous, well I have to respectfully disagree.
You are assuming that solely due to the power generation capability that it is not harnessed or limited effectively. Also not being considered are the drivetrain losses that occur to get the power from the main power plant to the tires, which in a 4 wheel drive (or all) vehicle is then increased. Typically it is around 14% loss.
Power in a vehicle is also subject to how that vehicle is used as far as what is called for.
So any developments in that area will be capped by the intended use.

Sorry for the book.
Edited by Shadowlife - 8/14/11 at 1:35am
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The big thing to remember with solar energy is "inefficient."

IIRC a 'good' solar panel harvests almost 10% of energy in sunlight.
yeah silicone is horrible at absorbing energy from the sun but "organic solar cells" are being developed that copy photosynthesis. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_solar_cell
people are also going the inorganic route and are focusing on increasing by making nano structured materials that can generate more energy. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0325164217.htm
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post #167 of 236
Time to go farm some thorium veins.
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Looks good to me.
The safety standards for the containment of the nuclear material will be insanely tight anyway. The British Government ran an entire, loaded rail train into a test container to check it.

And remember, Alpha radiation is not dangerous unless ingested or inhaled., and a couple layers of aluminium (aluminum) foil is enough to safely transport it in your pocket (for most sources).
Even Plutonium-238 needs less than an inch thick layer of lead to shield it.
Alpha particles are big old things, which is why they are so damaging, but it also makes them pretty easy to stop. Engineers can build a containment vessel for the radioactive parts of the engine solid enough to cope with a head on collision with a big rig or railway train at highway speeds, and do it in a sensible weight.
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Within that system 1 gram of thorium produces the equivalent of 7,500 gallons of gasoline. So if you fit the Thorium engine with 8 grams of Thorium, it will run the vehicle for its entire lifetime
7500*8= 60,000 gallons

My car does 17MPG so for me that would be 1,020,000 miles. I do around 40,000 miles a year, 1,020,000/40,000=25.5, so 25 and a half years for 8g of thorium. Most modern cars start to die around 120,000 - 200,000 miles if driven carefully. So by my calculations 8g is to much for a car like mine.
    
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On to the discussion of 300+Bhp vehicles being overpowered or ridiculous, well I have to respectfully disagree.
Well said a car with 300+BHP is a car that is designed for overtaking on highways. A car with 100BHP will use more fuel overtaking a truck than a 300+BHP car overtaking the same truck, and on high speed travelling. At 80 MPH a Toyota Prius would do around 40MPG where as a where as my BMW 740i can do 40 MPG at 120 MPH with cruise control on. If travelling 100 miles the BMW would save a lot of money in fuel. I also have to defend the people who are saying that 300+BHP vehicles are overpowered because for driving around a city or town they are lol
    
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