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if you think about it, you could say almost the same for gasoline.

If there was a car accident and lit up the gas! Fire could ignite! DANGER!
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Yeah, all newspapers are infallible.

My point is he did not make his 2 1/2 ton car get 100 miles per gallon with his invention. His claims are fraudulent, as that is physically impossible, which, in turn, makes the whole theory about him being assassinated untrue as well, because that eliminates any motive.

Since you are so utterly convinced that a mechanic can defy the laws of physics using a method that many others have used, demonstrating no such increase in efficiency, I don't really know what to say at this point.

Did you know the word "gullible" isn't in the dictionary?
Did you totally not read my last post at all? If you feel it was a hoax, fine. My point is it happened. I have personally met people (family) who were there. The drive to Deming was not something he ran off and did by himself, it was a quite public demonstration.

If you profess it to be physically impossible, then he was a magnificent con artist. First pulling the wool over dozens of people right in front of their face, and then convincing the richest people in town (and oil companies) to throw money at him. As I have stated already, I am not going to argue physics, I am not a physicist.

But to begin the phase of repeating my previous posts, if you feel it was a hoax, fine, but I guarantee you, it happened.
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but I guarantee you, it happened.
Him driving it? Sure. Him driving it 200 miles on 2 gallons of gas? Absolutely not. You can disagree all you want, but there's no such thing as free energy.
    
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It's actually more efficient to increase the amount of oxygen per gasoline. The only way to conventionally do that is something like a turbocharger. You provide more oxygen to burn, giving you better combustion ratios. Without the oxygen it doesn't matter how you use that gas, it simply won't burn. How do I know this? Because every gasoline car emits unburned gas. You could fine tune the amount of gas burned, though chemistry will tell you at the temperatures found in a car engine a 100% burn ratio for oxygen is near impossible (if not flat out impossible, I don't actually think there is a chemical reaction that will use 100% of the oxygen). So you still can't burn all the oxygen, which would mean the gas won't burn, so your still wasting gas. Eventually you'll get to a point where the gas won't ignite, it's how it works.

Simply put, dude was a con artist and a good one.
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Him driving it? Sure. Him driving it 200 miles on 2 gallons of gas? Absolutely not. You can disagree all you want, but there's no such thing as free energy.
So, now that both of us are simply repeating ourselves.....

...refer to previous posts.
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I'm not going to admit that physics shows that gasoline doesn't have the energy density for Tom Ogle to not be a con artist.
Fixed that for you.

Oh don't worry, I didn't miss this-

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but I certainly concede the possibility.
however, when you say things like-

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I guarantee you, it happened.
You're completely contradicting yourself, by "guaranteeing" that he broke the laws of physics.
    
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Fixed that for you.

Oh don't worry, I didn't miss this-



however, when you say things like-



You're completely contradicting yourself, by "guaranteeing" that he broke the laws of physics.
Right, I put down a whole paragraph conceding the possibility it was a con & what the implications of that would be, only to immediately assert it was not a con. /sarcasm (you obviously need the tags)

Did it not occur to you that you've entirely mis-read my application of "it". It's called context, ignoring it can on occasion prove quite confusing.

So, now you're constructing assumptions based on your miss interpretation, putting words in my mouth based on said assumptions, and seemingly attempting to fabricate an new avenue on which to continue arguing. For real man, learn to let go...it's only the internet.
Edited by supaspoon - 8/26/11 at 7:39pm
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So what exactly did you mean by "it happened"?

Let's keep the snarky, passive-aggressiveness to a minimum.
    
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Yeah right, 8 grams of Thorium can power an entire car over its lifetime, not only providing enough energy but also high enough power output to let you actually drive it without spending month at a time recharging... Its a mystery why NASA is still using primitive RTGs on its spaceships when a millions times better power source is available...

If you think its not a con you obviously never studied physics.
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