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It's actually more efficient to increase the amount of oxygen per gasoline. The only way to conventionally do that is something like a turbocharger. You provide more oxygen to burn, giving you better combustion ratios. Without the oxygen it doesn't matter how you use that gas, it simply won't burn. How do I know this? Because every gasoline car emits unburned gas. You could fine tune the amount of gas burned, though chemistry will tell you at the temperatures found in a car engine a 100% burn ratio for oxygen is near impossible (if not flat out impossible, I don't actually think there is a chemical reaction that will use 100% of the oxygen). So you still can't burn all the oxygen, which would mean the gas won't burn, so your still wasting gas. Eventually you'll get to a point where the gas won't ignite, it's how it works.

Simply put, dude was a con artist and a good one.
    
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It's actually more efficient to increase the amount of oxygen per gasoline. The only way to conventionally do that is something like a turbocharger. You provide more oxygen to burn, giving you better combustion ratios. Without the oxygen it doesn't matter how you use that gas, it simply won't burn. How do I know this? Because every gasoline car emits unburned gas. You could fine tune the amount of gas burned, though chemistry will tell you at the temperatures found in a car engine a 100% burn ratio for oxygen is near impossible (if not flat out impossible, I don't actually think there is a chemical reaction that will use 100% of the oxygen). So you still can't burn all the oxygen, which would mean the gas won't burn, so your still wasting gas. Eventually you'll get to a point where the gas won't ignite, it's how it works.

Simply put, dude was a con artist and a good one.
My dad has owned 2 vans from the same year and it had the same engine and both weighed the same except one had a turbo. the one with the turbo averaged 37MPG and the one without averaged 45MPG. The only way that you can increase MPG without any serious changes to the engine or fuel system is to change the cars air to fuel ratio, but doing that will only increase the MPG by maybe 1 or 2 more miles.
    
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On one hand I want to scream "Omg this is awesome!" I was always wondering what would probably replace fossil-fuel burning engines. I hope this is the answer and I am soo glad I didn't invest in an electric car yet...

On the other hand I feel sorry for anybody in the gas/oil/car business because you will most likely be loosing your job.

One question what happens to long-haul truckers and other big transport people that depends on high torque and horsepower engines do they just say stick with diesel? ( I am pretty sure this was a stupid question...this thorium solution most likely is used for the 90% of people that just use a car or only need a car. )

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Just like with solar and electric solutions I am sure that they will raise the cost of 8grams of thorium to be like a $100,000 or something like that so they can still have their profit.
The original Diesel engine was designed to run on Vegetable oil. It was the oil companies that killed Rudolf Diesel on his trip across the Atlantic to the US when he "turn up missing" and then they developed the oil based diesel fuel we know today that is dirty as it is now. the whole vegie oil movement in the 60-70 was just a return home to this engine's original fuel.
 
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The original Diesel engine was designed to run on Vegetable oil. It was the oil companies that killed Rudolf Diesel on his trip across the Atlantic to the US when he "turn up missing" and then they developed the oil based diesel fuel we know today that is dirty as it is now. the whole vegie oil movement in the 60-70 was just a return home to this engine's original fuel.
You can run a normal diesel engine on used chip/fry oil without any modification, the only problem is your car will smell like chips/fries.
    
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Yeah if you start changing the engine design, but the standard engine isn't made that way (I make references to the average car engine, nothing for high performance). I could run NOS in an engine too, which would probably help more. Though you have to be carefull how much you push, can blow your engine with that. NOS just exaggerates the turbo effect, giving even more air and allowing you to run more fuel. So by default it's a waste of gas. Simply put, you can't really mess with the gas much to make it real effective.

The problem is if you start burning the fuel at the higher burns you get more "power". The more power you add the more fuel you waste, even if it's optimized power.

If you really wanted to be fuel conservative you mess with the tranny and the gear ratios. However that's straying from the engine.

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My dad has owned 2 vans from the same year and it had the same engine and both weighed the same except one had a turbo. the one with the turbo averaged 37MPG and the one without averaged 45MPG. The only way that you can increase MPG without any serious changes to the engine or fuel system is to change the cars air to fuel ratio, but doing that will only increase the MPG by maybe 1 or 2 more miles.
Yeah basically, it's very hard to squeeze much out of it because of how inefficent the engine is. You have to deal with energy leak, which is extremely poor. Not only that but they intentionally remove heat to keep the engine from locking up. This inately reduces the efficiency of the car engine. It's a piss poor design but the best we have for mass production, oh well.
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