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Wrong, you don't buy the license but you pay the support like with Red Hat. They release the source code but if you want high-end support with people on the spot available when you need it 24/7/365 you are paying for the support. Same as with other enterprise OS.
Big corporations (to name a few: Google, Amazon, IBM, PayPal) have their own competent people and don't pay for support. It's mostly only the smaller corporations which use servers for utility (mail, small web) that buy support - if you have a bunch of in-house developed solutions, you want in-house people to take care of your servers.

Just take a look at the kernel contributors - you'll see a lot of contributors from large corporations. They handle problems independently, and even submit patches.


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Originally Posted by BizzareRide View Post
When it comes to revenue, Windows Server far outpaces Linux.

This deduces the cost running Windows server to less than that of Linux = Profit $
How did you reach that conclusion? It makes no sense.
Edited by Coma - 8/12/11 at 12:57pm
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Ehhh I know Russia is moving towards linux.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7034828.stm
Correction:

Russia's goverment is moving to GNU/LINUX by a direct order from a Semi-dictator (Vladimir Putin) ,not a discussued decision.

That news is form 2007,which is old,but what you don´t know is that Russia is having problems deploying Linux since then and now they announced that they are developing a new operating system for them. as a countermeasuer,wich i am afriad it will fail dramatically.

The conclusion is that they are still running windows based equipment in goverment facilities.

Once the dictator is down,they will revert all that mess.
Edited by Eduardv - 8/12/11 at 1:00pm
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post #23 of 142
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When it comes to revenue, Windows Server far outpaces Linux.

This deduces the cost running Windows server to less than that of Linux = Profit $
Well seeing as it doesnt cost anything to license Linux and any smart company is going to pay for IT, at least they arent paying for IT and the licensing of Server 08. Thus, Linux is cheaper and far better to use.
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This isn't news to me. Anyone that has peeked at Microsoft's actions towards Linux during the past years will know what I'm talking about. It's bad enough the part of the community fills in their blanks with myths and falsehoods.
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Well seeing as it doesnt cost anything to license Linux and any smart company is going to pay for IT, at least they arent paying for IT and the licensing of Server 08. Thus, Linux is cheaper and far better to use.

No sorry... The only reason Linux has a 60% market share is because 'it doesn't cost anything' and honestly, that isn't entirely true given that Red Hat Enterprise Linux(RHEL) cost money and I believe it RHEL has the largest share in the server space of any Linux distro.

If Windows Server is making 40% of the server revenue versus only 19% for all Linux versions combined, then it isn't cheaper to use. This is just a matter of simple inductive reasoning...

In terms of ease of use, well there's no way I will take your word for it as I haven't used either.
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Well if you count all other red hat based distro's. Then yes, Red Hat is the largest in the business same can be said with Debain-Based Distro's and Slackware.

You pay for the support and someone to be available to debug and patch the RHEL when you need it for your company. Which is why so many stock-exchange use it and large enterprise companies as they are on-site if you want making sure it runs smooth as silk. Much better than the IT staff trying to look on bulletin boards seeing which one is the correct answer to the problem.
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Linux is free, and Windows isn't yet Windows STILL has the bigger market share. Doesn't this say something?
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If Linux could game as well as Windows 7, I would switch.
     
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if linux could game as well as windows 7, i would switch.
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Gaming is the Biggest reason Linux doesn't have the Desktop Market!
Not because its inferior, less robust, or less useful.

Linux is growing with leaps and bounds. Gaming is a GIGANTIC market!
but guess what there is a Way to make Games for MS and Linux its called Java.

Minecraft
Rage

Its happening, expect a few years but it is gonna happen. Disagree with me, fine most people do.

Linux isnt a threat now to Desktop but see what happens when SDK's get more popular.


Now one could say Linux has a lot of Dependency problems, and yes it does.
On the other hand the more popular Linux gets, the better it will be, as it will only get more support!

With Tech getting so much better all the time (like the Unlimmited detail stuff)
One can run Linux as a host and put Win7 in a VM and even get decent Frame rates.
things like VM's and Dual booting aren't the answer but they sure make it a lot easier to make the transition from MS to Linux.

EDIT:Besides Linux can do some cool stuff.
customized Live USB can run off RAM ALONE
and can access files from
a MS NTFS partition with out a password
Edited by cayennemist - 8/12/11 at 2:59pm
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