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Linux was ever a threat?

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Why would they announce that they now have only 1 main competitor? The government will just go harder on them for monopoly laws now.
Umm, no.
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post #32 of 142
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So many people reverting back to windows because it takes time to install things on Linux in Command line.

The Linux Ecosystem is so diverse that it is a mess.
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post #33 of 142
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Big corporations (to name a few: Google, Amazon, IBM, PayPal) have their own competent people and don't pay for support. It's mostly only the smaller corporations which use servers for utility (mail, small web) that buy support - if you have a bunch of in-house developed solutions, you want in-house people to take care of your servers.

That is not necissarily true. Large enterprises buy support from companies for
numerous reasons (one for example because it is cheaper to buy support then to
waste precious developer cycles with troubleshooting). It is one thing when the
solution in production that you are using is your own, but it is an entirly different
scenario when you have other companies products in your enviorments.
(I'm sure that google or any similarly large corporation don't use all in house gear for their enviorments.)

For example, wasn't there a news article not too long ago where Microsoft renewed a support contract for their linux enviorments?
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post #34 of 142
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[...]

Linux is growing with leaps and bounds. Gaming is a GIGANTIC market!
but guess what there is a Way to make Games for MS and Linux its called Java.

[...]
There's a reason why games are not written with Java. The main advantage that Java has ie cross-platform support is also it's greatest weakness, cause the way they achieve it is by essentially running a virtual machine that will run Java code with makes it not efficient for any intensive apps. Games generally is written in C++ as far as i can tell hence the C++ libraries most games install.

Tho your statement is false, The alternative is called OpenGL which was used a lot back in a day and is still kinda mirrors DX features. A C++ games utilizing OpenGL will run on every platform/
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There's a reason why games are not written with Java. The main advantage that Java has ie cross-platform support is also it's greatest weakness, cause the way they achieve it is by essentially running a virtual machine that will run Java code with makes it not efficient for any intensive apps. Games generally is written in C++ as far as i can tell hence the C++ libraries most games install.

Tho your statement is false, The alternative is called OpenGL which was used a lot back in a day and is still kinda mirrors DX features. A C++ games utilizing OpenGL will run on every platform/

Yeah, even PS3's and Macintosh's support OpenGL. They had a big article in Atomic this month. The 360's support for OpenGL isn't really there however.
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If Linux could game as well as Windows 7, I would switch.
For what reason? Inferior drivers, programs?
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it's funny
I have gotten about 5 or 6ish people to stop using windows and start using Linux

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Originally Posted by xxicrimsonixx View Post
If Linux could game as well as Windows 7, I would switch.
Linux is better for gaming
game makers just need to stop coding windows junk
Edited by 3dfxvoodoo - 8/12/11 at 7:26pm
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post #38 of 142
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it's funny
I have gotten about 5 or 6ish people to stop using windows and start using Linux



Linux is better for gaming
game makers just need to stop cod'ing windows junk
How exactly is Linux better for gaming?
post #39 of 142
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Originally Posted by cayennemist View Post
Linux is growing with leaps and bounds.
Rage


id has been making linux versions for over a decade....


hasnt made a huge impact.
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Originally Posted by cayennemist View Post
Linux is growing with leaps and bounds. Gaming is a GIGANTIC market!
but guess what there is a Way to make Games for MS and Linux its called Java.
Java isnt the way forward for gaming on linux you cant make modern 3d games using an interpreted language. Devlopers would need to drop DirectX, MS C++ redist libaries and start using OpenGL with open/standard C++ libaries. Linux would also need far better modern graphics card drivers and you would have to deal with all of the different distributions and flavours. Once you get over these development hurdles you then have to face the publishing problems. Linux works completely differently to windows in the sense that Linux gives everything in favour of the user (a root user, no registry, non-fraged disk ect). Windows does not it gives in favor of the developer. Its difficult enough to get propiatery software to work across the board on Linux systems (look at skype for example) let alone propiatery software that uses DRM/secured content and tries to prevent the user from modifying content. Can you imagine how quickly games and distribution platforms would be cracked/pirated/moded/hacked (its fast enough on windows) if they were avalable on linux.

Dont get me wrong ID have done it many a time but lets be honest they an anomaly in the industory many other (if not all) games companies dont share the same perspective. I would love modern games on linux but there are good reasons why it isnt feasable.
Edited by cdesewell - 8/12/11 at 5:15pm
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