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All,

I used to regularly use LinX 0.6.4 for stress testing my overclocks.

Recently, I've upgraded to the i5-2500K and now have started working on the OC. But, LinX refuses to work, error
No runs is allowed for D:\\Softwares\\LinX\\linpack_xeon64.exe: not enough memory"

I've even downloaded the latest Intel files (version 10.3.5.008) and put them in the same folder as LinX. Somewhere I'd read that LinX needs a paging file, so, I've created one (400MB) on my HDD, as my primary boot is an SSD. Don't know if the size needs to be larger??

Does anyone have any suggestions here to get LinX to work?
    
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I don't have any suggestions, but it sounds to me like the general consensus is that LinX is a waste of time and is even inferior to Prime95's Blend test.

So I recommend not trying anymore and just relying entirely on Prime95's Blend test. Or you can use Prime95's Custom test to use more than just 1600MB of memory (its default). I recommend trying 3072MB (always make sure the Blend test is selected before switching it to Custom).
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On the contrary I have heard only good things about LinX, across several forums / articles. Mostly, I've heard that LinX generates more heat than any stress test.. Hence, if a rig is stable under 10 runs of LinX, then, it's stable everywhere.

Personally, I love LinX and the simplicity and quick stress test, it performs. Sadly, it's stopped working since I switched to SB.
    
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Yep, but when it comes to Sandy Bridge it's basically the opposite. When I was learning about Sandy Bridge, the experts here on OCN (the Sandy Bridge experts) taught me that now with Sandy Bridge, Prime95's Blend test is by far the best. I tried to insist that LinX should be used too, but I was told that it's more of a waste of time with Sandy Bridge.

Based on what I've been told numerous times by many different people here on OCN, LinX was great for previous generation CPUs, but it's not worth using for Sandy Bridge. However, I was also told that if I want to really put my cooling to the test, then by all means I should use LinX.
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post #5 of 9
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Interesting!!

In that case, these experts must also know how to get LinX running on SB At the moment, it's still a no go for me.. as LinX refuses to run..
    
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I'm thinking, could this be because of the Pagefile, as I remember reading somewhere that LinX requires the Pagefile. I'm running my OS on the Vertex3 and hence have disabled pagefile.
I've created a pagefile on my Data drive which is a Samsung 1TB, of 500MB.
Anybody?
    
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Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
Yep, but when it comes to Sandy Bridge it's basically the opposite. When I was learning about Sandy Bridge, the experts here on OCN (the Sandy Bridge experts) taught me that now with Sandy Bridge, Prime95's Blend test is by far the best. I tried to insist that LinX should be used too, but I was told that it's more of a waste of time with Sandy Bridge.

Based on what I've been told numerous times by many different people here on OCN, LinX was great for previous generation CPUs, but it's not worth using for Sandy Bridge. However, I was also told that if I want to really put my cooling to the test, then by all means I should use LinX.
It isn't a waste of time. Although Prime95 blend runs are the best to know the stability of your system, IBT/LinX with AVX are useful tools when you are tweaking your settings.
Since it heats up the CPU more than any other stress testing, it shows you what the thermal threshold of your set up is.
Aside from knowing your new settings would give you BSOD or not quickly, the GFlops score shows you your system is working as intended or not.
Sometimes you even pass the test but you get lower GFlops score especially at higher RAM amount was tested.
Then you know there is something wrong with your OC.
You must score higher when you OC higher.
Also the GFlps score on each runs shouldn't fluctuate more than 2GFlops.
It is still a good indicator and quick stability testing tool.
If I pass all these fine with LinX, I'll move to Prime95 fft 1344 and 1792 runs.
Then after that, I do custom blend for 12+ hours.
It is always best to not depend on one stress testing.
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I don't have any suggestions, but it sounds to me like the general consensus is that LinX is a waste of time and is even inferior to Prime95's Blend test.

So I recommend not trying anymore and just relying entirely on Prime95's Blend test. Or you can use Prime95's Custom test to use more than just 1600MB of memory (its default). I recommend trying 3072MB (always make sure the Blend test is selected before switching it to Custom).
Yea for whatever reason blend seems to be the best method for stress testing sandy bridge chips. On the previous generation chips I would use small fft for cpu overclocks, but now with sandybridge you can pass 12 hours of small fft and fail the first hour of blend.
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I'm thinking, could this be because of the Pagefile, as I remember reading somewhere that LinX requires the Pagefile. I'm running my OS on the Vertex3 and hence have disabled pagefile.
I've created a pagefile on my Data drive which is a Samsung 1TB, of 500MB.
Anybody?
I don't have a Paging File, but mine worked. So, I recommend doing this:

Switch to the "Windows Classic" theme. After that (or before it, it doesn't matter), disable Windows Update (re-enable it when you're done, of course). Also, disable anything else that's running that you do not need. The goal here is to free up as much memory as possible. That means closing things like Steam, anti-virus, any instant messengers, etc. Just lighten the load as much as possible.

After this, reboot.

When it's done restarting, open LinX and try again (with the "All" button pressed). If it still complains of not having enough memory, then click the "All" button again and manually choose a slightly lower amount of memory and try again. I recommend decreasing the amount by about 5-10MB at a time until it works. When it finally works, Windows will complain that there is not enough memory instead of LinX. So, lower it again.

When it finally works and when Windows doesn't complain about being low on memory, I also recommend lowering the amount by 1GB (or just something substantial like that) and then compare your temps. The idea is to find the largest amount of memory possible that you can use without resulting in a lower core temperature during the test. You will find that when you lower the amount by like 1GB, your core temps will be higher. So keep trying different amounts until you find your maximum where anything higher results in lower temps but anything lower does not result in higher temps. The idea is that if you find that your temps stop getting higher with each new lower amount of memory, then stop lowering it and start increasing it bit by bit until the core temps start ending up being lower and then back it off slightly.

If you don't optimize it like this, then you won't get the best out of Linpack.

Although, this doesn't mean that I am recommending that you use Linpack because I honestly don't recommend it. Based on what I've been told numerous times now, Prime95's Custom test is the best that there is for Sandy Bridge. For your system, I recommend telling Prime95 to use 3584MB of memory (3.5GB) while leaving the rest of the Custom settings at the defaults.

I also recommend leaving the computer alone during the entire length of any stress test to avoid forcing the CPU to share the "cycles" with whatever it is you're doing. Any stress test is more effective when it can have the CPU all to itself.


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Originally Posted by Tunagoblin View Post
It isn't a waste of time. Although Prime95 blend runs are the best to know the stability of your system, IBT/LinX with AVX are useful tools when you are tweaking your settings.
Since it heats up the CPU more than any other stress testing, it shows you what the thermal threshold of your set up is.
Aside from knowing your new settings would give you BSOD or not quickly, the GFlops score shows you your system is working as intended or not.
Sometimes you even pass the test but you get lower GFlops score especially at higher RAM amount was tested.
Then you know there is something wrong with your OC.
You must score higher when you OC higher.
Also the GFlps score on each runs shouldn't fluctuate more than 2GFlops.
It is still a good indicator and quick stability testing tool.
If I pass all these fine with LinX, I'll move to Prime95 fft 1344 and 1792 runs.
Then after that, I do custom blend for 12+ hours.
It is always best to not depend on one stress testing.
Back before Sandy Bridge came out, I was one of the few people on here who would constantly preach that it's not a good idea to depend on just one program for stress testing. I would preach that it's necessary to pass 100 passes in LinX, 12 hours of Prime95's Small FFTs, 12 hours of Blend, 12 hours of Large FFTs, and even the Custom utilizing all of your memory. I was hardcore about it: if my system wasn't stable enough for that, then I would keep working on it until it was.

With Sandy Bridge, I've been preached to countless times that I no longer need to go through all of that (getting me to change my ways was like pulling teeth). Apparently, now I can just rely on Prime95's Custom using all of my memory (I choose to use 7168MB).

Plus, I'm not really interested in using Linpack with a 32nm CPU. Using it on a 45nm CPU made me uncomfortable enough, but with the 32nm process? Yeah, no thanks. It feels worse than running Furmark on a modern GPU. So, no. You can keep doing it, but I won't.
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