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I understand that this question can likely only be answered indefinitely, but I'll ask it anyway.

I currently use the FSP Group FX700-GLN in my rig. I have been considering a complete rebuild of my system (case, psu, all inclusive). The more I think about it, the more I realize I don't need an "extra" system sitting around right now, so I am thinking of upgrading more gradually (and perhaps over time re-assembling the older rig as I upgrade). If I do this, I could see myself leaving my FSP 700W PSU in the rig indefinitely, and buying a smaller unit for the older rig once it got to that point (since I, of course, went way overkill with my PSU the first time).

My question is what is the average life expectancy of a power supply (particularly one of this quality, I know it came highly recommended at the time)? Is there much risk inserting a ~5 year old PSU in a new computer, and could it hold out another 5 years? It hasn't been under a heavy load the past 5 years (as I said, I went overkill), but I would hate for it to take some of my other components with it if it hit the wall one of these days.

Thanks in advance for your time.
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post #2 of 13
I have never personally seen a nice name brand PSU go bad. I just get a new rig before they die. I had a few Dells that had their OEM no name PSUs go bad but that is different.

My Enermax has a 5 year warranty, so I assume that they expect it to live at least 5 years.
    
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post #3 of 13
Yeah it's a roll of the dice really. If it's working it works, there is no way to predict the life span.
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Lifespan can be dictated by:

Heat-

If the PSU runs hot and the volatile components heat up, you drastically decrease the lifespan. Components like electrolytic capacitors are hurt tremendously by heat, and when they die, they make a mess.

Usage:

If you are pulling close to the labeled wattage 24/7, you would get a lot of wear and tear on it. Run it at 50% of it's rated wattage for only a few hours a day, and your lifespan is increased.

Component quality:

Electrolytic capacitors are the best example, because not much else will actually fail off a whim. Transistors sometimes fail, but most other things aren't at risk. If they use a bad brand of capacitors, those will fail quickly. If they use components that do not work at high temperatures, you also get wear and tear.

So get a good unit, and it'll last.
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if your real worried about it dying, thermaltakes toughpower range has lifetime warrantys (at least here in aus), which is real piece of mind. the psus are only standard 80+ or maybe even 0+ bronze tho, so theyre not high efficiency
    
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mad87645;14562572 
if your real worried about it dying, thermaltakes toughpower range has lifetime warrantys (at least here in aus), which is real piece of mind. the psus are only standard 80+ or maybe even 0+ bronze tho, so theyre not high efficiency

Lifetime warranty means "product lifetime" which means "as long as we have the same model in stock", which means "until about a year or two after we stop making it."
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PSU lifetime depends on the load it was under and the environment its in.

I would not trust many PSUs after 5 years, let alone 10, unless they were rarely used, or only used at very low load and in cool environments.
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post #8 of 13
Quote:
Originally Posted by Epitope;14559327 
I have never personally seen a nice name brand PSU go bad. I just get a new rig before they die. I had a few Dells that had their OEM no name PSUs go bad but that is different.

My Enermax has a 5 year warranty, so I assume that they expect it to live at least 5 years.

Correction, Dells don't have no-name junkers.

They employ units from LiteON, Delta and Bestec to name some.
While the first is syonymous with DVD writers, and the last is renown for its ATX250-12E failure, you can be rest assured that these are indeed not no-name units.

Many other OEMs especially HP and Lenovo rely on these same brands to power their computers.

Delta especially, has built for Acer and Antec, just to name a couple of brands; and are one of the world's largest electronics manufacturers.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phaedrus2129;14564220 
Lifetime warranty means "product lifetime" which means "as long as we have the same model in stock", which means "until about a year or two after we stop making it."

that only applies to some company's policies, not all. EVGA's life-time is "real" life time (1000+ years wink.gif) XFX lifetime is, i think, only the product line lifetime.
    
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Quote:
Originally Posted by robwadeson;14564285 
that only applies to some company's policies, not all. EVGA's life-time is "real" life time (1000+ years wink.gif) XFX lifetime is, i think, only the product line lifetime.

No XFX's warranty is lifetime as in your lifetime.

The companies that do that are sparkle, Visiontek and I thing one or two more companies but I forgot who.
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