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Just gotta learn to not even try balla. You can show them every undeniable fact and they'll still deny it.

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What really amazes me is the the inability to even read.

More to the point, I'm not even sure you could ever create on situation on this sub-forum where Intel would be the platform of choice for many of these people.

The title brought out the best of said people.
    
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I personally never liked Intel because of their inflated prices, 260€ for their medium-end CPU and 900€ for their high-end CPU. They're insane, I just wish they'd stop being so damn full of themselves.
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for most games, the phenom ii x4 will perform fine but in some games, the fps will occasionally dips to single digit (micro-stutter). 2500k is just too much for an average gamer who doesn't really care about MAX performance out of their hardware. If you're on a budget, get the athlon II x4 because the extra L3 cache has little effect in games.
    
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If the CPU-NB was not overclocked on that 955 bench, then that has no merit. No CPU-NB overclock will definitely not only bottleneck two cards but a lot of other things.
Either case, it is a well known fact that the Phenom II architecture is older and well behind the new LGA1155 in performance depending on situation. There is no need to further argue about it.
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post #95 of 95
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Jagged your arugment has merit, just not in this thread.

The OP is talking about a high end $300+ board coupled with CF 6970s.

The segment of gamer he is attempt to breach is dominated by the i5-2500k, a chip that will smoke a Phenom II with that kind of gpu power for a very compelling price difference. A price difference someone looking at ROG boards and crossfiring two of AMDs top GPUs would be willing to pay since they're dropping more on the board, and three times as much on the gpus as he would be an i5-2500k.

Your mph analogy also carries no weight, and is pretty played out on the AMD side.

It isn't like the i5-2500k is a golden end all be all chip. If I had a low end, old GPU like yours I wouldn't care about the i5-2500k either, because it would be a processor > gpu mis-match. The budget argument you're attempting to make has no merit here whatsoever. If the pricing on bulldozer is accurate, and I don't know for sure if it is the IPC or per core performance of Bulldozer isn't going to beat sandy bridge.

Recommending a much slower 955 for the level of rig he is going for isn't a good idea. Neither is directing someone to spend $300+ on a ROG board, $700+ on gpus, and $110 on a slow cpu. That is a terrible match up if there ever was one. Furthermore since we're talking about gaming, an x4 is all that really matters here. If pricing and history is any indication AMD's x4 isn't going beat the i5-2500k, not even at stock. So the option to go bulldozer, while purchasing two cpus overall in this case seems to be driven more by bias thoughts than logical understanding.
I will personally vouch for ballathafeared here because I feel I don't want people to make the same mistakes I did. I have the phenom II x2 560 but now unlocked to B60 which is in the middle of the 965 and 955 and I must say I am not happy with the performance at all. I understand If I had a card around the 5770-460 range I wouldn't complain but every game I have played so far allows me to run it at max settings with AA but my fps Dips all the time because my CPU simply can not keep up. I'm not saying the 965 is bad for gaming, I'm just saying that to me there is an OBVIOUS difference between the 2500k and 965 when you use anything past a 560ti and 6950.


Long story short, me spending $260 on a video card and only about 160 on my motherboard CPU was not a smart choice and I should've went to the 2500k route instead because now I'm just waiting for BD to come out while I dip in fps all day in my games =\\
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