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So i use to have quadfire 4870x2 after i knew it wouldnt run on a 850w PSU i bought a Thermaltake Toughpower 1000w that was (at the time) one of the biggest i could get but the crossfire never worked.

I would play games mainly COD and BFBC2 and after about 30 - 50 mins the screen would go black then all these white lines would go up and down my screen and the sound card would output this loud screaming noise and then about 10 secs later the pc would reboot.

After that i always thought my mobo was to blame and didnt like crossfire so i bought a 580GTX when that hit the market but after i had to RMA that as the display started playing up i was left without anything but credit with ebuyer i picked 2 6970's and thought i would give it another go.

Anyway the same problems came up when trying to crossfire the 6970's also use to get a few memory dumps, I thought it might be the NB in pain as i was at 4GHz so i took my OC off but it didnt help it.

Anyway after locking horns with someone on here last night (i was in a bad mood) he said my psu was probably to blame so i thought i would go on a psu calculator and add up what i had, It came back at 970w Minimum

Off the Thermaltake Toughpower 1000w i am running

Intel QX9650 @ 4Ghz
Maximus II Formula
4GB g.skill DDR2 @ 1200Mhz
2 x Gigabyte 6970 2GB Ram
OCZ Vertex 2 60GB
Western Digital Velociraptor 10k RPM
6 LED 120mm Fans 1300RPMs
2 Blue Cathodes
4 USB Ports used (Mouse, Keyboard, Microphone on headset and Monitor USB Hub)
1 x Laning DDC 12v 18w 600L/h Pump (soon to be 2)

So do you think it could very well be PSU and if so im looking to SLI 680's when they hit market so would i need to upgrade my psu?

Thanks for Reading

Regards
Edited by 33B - 8/12/11 at 1:56pm
post #2 of 10
970W? That sounds very inaccurate to me.

Which PSU calculator did you use?
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so i bought a 580GTX when that hit the market but after i had to RMA that as the display started playing up
???

So 3 different card/s set-ups give you issues?

I'd start looking at other things, memtest, your ssds, maybe try running the os from a hdd.

Basic troubleshooting, start ruling things out, try single card.
Edited by grunion - 8/12/11 at 3:24pm
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i used this one http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp

I know it sounds very high i thought the same..
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???

So 3 different card/s set-ups give you issues?

I'd start looking at other things, memtest, your ssds, maybe try running the os from a hdd.

Basic troubleshooting, start ruling things out, try single card.
The single card setup's work 580GTX was just a one off, Gigabyte didnt have much to say other than "its broken" but both 4870x2 in quadfire and 2 6970's in crossfire wouldnt work

Ive done memtest for 24 hours no errors at stock and OC, i have had windows 7 on both hdd's and single card works fine.
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i used this one http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp

I know it sounds very high i thought the same..
Can you use it again, but this time click its "Print" button and then either copy/paste the results or post a screenshot of the results (.PNG format is preferred)?
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Use this to calculate the power draw:

http://www.overclock.net/power-suppl...alculator.html
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Ok i done another one on 90% load it comes back at 834W so lets say 850W and on system load 100% and cpu load 90% 921W

Now this Thermaltake PSU is a 1000W combined so 2 500W Psu's in one box.. so could one side of the 500w psu be overloaded so my pc reboots as a result?

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Edited by 33B - 8/13/11 at 3:07am
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Ok i done another one on 90% load it comes back at 834W so lets say 850W and on system load 100% and cpu load 90% 921W

Now this Thermaltake PSU is a 1000W combined so 2 500W Psu's in one box.. so could one side of the 500w psu be overloaded so my pc reboots as a result?

Regards
Thank you for the screenshots! Now I can show you what I wanted you to know: setting "System Load" to 100% means that every last component that is pulling power from the PSU is at 100% load. This is including the fans, the optical drive, the hard drive, the solid state drive, the sound card, the memory, the graphics card, the entire motherboard, the CPU, the entire water cooling system, your USB devices, etc. So using 100% means that absolutely everything connected to the PSU (either directly or indirectly) is completely maxed out.

Therefore, a much more realistic value for enthusiasts like us is about 70-75%. I recommend 75% since we do put the CPU under 100% load for stress testing and since we also put the video card under 100% load while stress testing - but never at the same time.

So making just this small change results in this:





This PSU calculator also comes pre-calculated for a USB mouse and a USB keyboard, so removing 2 USB devices results in 699W with the minimum at 649W (as compared to 703W with a minimum of 653W).

Even if I choose 100% TDP with the 4 USB devices still selected, the calculator only increases it up to 721W with a minimum of 671W. Then if I leave the TDP at 100% with the 4 USB devices still selected, but choose 80% System Load (which is less realistic than 75%), it still only calculates 766W with a minimum of 716W.

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post #10 of 10
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So would you say a combined 1000w psu is a bad idea or are all 1000-1500w psu combined? its weird how ive had it on 2 different setups though but the only thing i havnt changed since the 4870x2 days is the mobo and psu. so its one of them 2 but if the psu can handle it then the only thing left to blame is the mobo i guess

The reason im asking is im upgrading to ivy bridge when it comes out and nvidia's sLI 6xx and i didnt want the same problems to come back, so if it was the psu i was gonna sale it and get another.

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