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Turned on my PC, it took forever to POST and displayed a message that the RAID array had failed. Reset the CMOS and then entered the BIOS, it recognizes that the SATA ports are being utilized but displays None. I thought they only fail one at a time?
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That would be pretty bad luck if they failed at the exact same moment. However with a RAID-0 array you lose your data if one or two fail. By displays none do you mean the BIOS doesn't list any HDDs? Can you check the SMART status of the drives?
 
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Originally Posted by mdatmo View Post
That would be pretty bad luck if they failed at the exact same moment. However with a RAID-0 array you lose your data if one or two fail. By displays none do you mean the BIOS doesn't list any HDDs? Can you check the SMART status of the drives?
Correct, that's the real risk of RAID 0. Since the array will fail if either HDD crashes, you have an increased risk of the entire array failing (either one can fail and crash the setup, both don't need to). Now if you're running some other sort of RAID then that would be another vital piece of information...
(though I acknowledge it says RAID 0 in your sig)
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I would open up your case and see if the cables came loose. Two drives vanishing from the BIOS - what are the odds?
     
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post #5 of 10
Yep, unlikely that both drives died at the exact same time. Its probably more likely that the mobo raid controller died or something. What was the controller? Jmicron, Intel or what?

You could also try booting from a different HDD, and seeing if they show up in windows.


Worst case scenario you can try using an Intel controller and using that "raid recovery" feature or whatever. I've had my whole RAID 0 array (both of them) disappear (I almost cried - over 400gb of stuff - years of work), only to recover it by reconfiguring it with the same drivers (it doesnt force you to format). DONT DO THIS unless you have no other option, I cant guarantee it will work, all I know is it did once with my specific motherboard.
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post #6 of 10
Actually, half the time, when I ran a RAID none of my drives showed up in the BIOS. However they worked fine.


Think you might have had one die, or maybe the RAID is corrupted.
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post #7 of 10
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Well after deleting the RAID array, the 'healthy' drive showed up. At least I can still RMA it, however I am thinking long and hard if going RAID again is worth it.

I am thinking of just getting a SSD.
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Yeah I decided a while ago that RAID wasn't really worth it.
Getting an SSD is a popular choice. Not a plan I've gone with yet, but an upgrade in the works nonetheless.
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Price per dollar for an SSD is literally 2x that of a standard HDD though, so for me RAID was the better option. Then again I believe in backups for your backups. If I lost my work I would cry shamelessly.
Also, how did you set up your RAID arrays and what did you use to build them?
Are you using the mobo drivers only or are you using a RAID controller card?
I know I am new here so I look to this as an opportunity to learn (Though the circumstances suck, sorry )
For me RAID has typically worked as it should and rebuilt itself when I have had a failure.
Do you perform regular maintenance on the arrays and check for errors?

Again, sorry if these seem like silly questions, but I am hoping to try and learn and maybe even help a little where able

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Originally Posted by Raul-7 View Post
Well after deleting the RAID array, the 'healthy' drive showed up. At least I can still RMA it, however I am thinking long and hard if going RAID again is worth it.

I am thinking of just getting a SSD.
Lol same thing happened to me. I tried installing Windows to the unhealthy one and it took like 8 hours and didn't work. Tried the other drive and well it worked fine.

Now I have this 640GB drive just sitting on the floor collecting dust.
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