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Hello all first post, and i was hoping i could get some opinions on whether my hypothetical loop would work or not. I figured to avoid asking tons of questions i would just draw it in paint and see if you guys could give me any tips or warnings about it and what i should change/add.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

My specs if it helps,
Case: haf x
Cpu: i7 2600k (oc to at least 4.2 eventually)
Gpu: gtx 580 (sli once i get a new psu)
psu: antec 750 watt

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/...oopproject.png

My first thought is the pump (purple) (i was looking at the swiftech mcp655) wont be enough to push water through the whole loop,

secondly is the order in which the water flows correct or wrong?

any tips or pointers would be greatly appreciated!
post #2 of 9
3 x 360 rads seems a bit overkill...
post #3 of 9
First thing, you probs dont need 3 360 rads. For 2 gpus and a cpu you could easily get by with a 240 and a 360. Although 3 360s doesnt hurt, overkill is always good You may want to consider getting a dual pump top just for redundancy. 1 655 should be plenty for that loop, but better safe than sorry in my opinion. I run 2 mcp355s in a loop that doesnt require that much pump power just so that if 1 fails I know my computer wont overheat and die.

Maybe you could share what parts you are looking at in terms of blocks tubing rads fans and fittings?
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I'm going to have to agree with everyone here that you 3 360 rads is overkill. You can certainly get it, but 2 360s will be sufficient to get you to and past 4.2ghz and cool the GPUs. Also you should look at the 35x (depending on blocks and such). The difference between the 665 and 35x is that the 665 has a better flow rate, but less headroom (which means lesser pressure. This for low restriction systems) and the 35x has a lesser flow rate, but more head room.... which means it can be used for higher restriction systems (i.e. ones with 3 360s). You wouldn't need two, but if you are looking for redundancy you certainly can.

Also, I wouldn't put the 2nd res. If you'll need a second pump for it. There really is no reason to have it, so just stick to the bay one or the outside one, but not both.

Also, you didn't really show how your water flow. It certainly seem reasonable if you went Res->pump->GPUs->ext. Rads->CPU->Internal RAD
because a pump always needs to be after (and below) the res, this is because you never want air running through your pump.

And a further parts list would be helpful in determining these things as well.
    
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Yeah i had a feeling the 3 360s were overkill, but thats an easy fix (and will save me some $ )

As for parts i was kinda looking at the swiftech apogee xt for cpu block, and the 580 will be the evga with block already on.

Radiators i really have no idea whats a good brand or type, i was looking at the swiftech mcr320 xp, or the black ice rads but i have no idea which would be better.

The route i had planned would cool the gpus first, then go to the external rad to (i had hoped) cool down the liquid before hitting the cpu, and go back to the main rad, and then the reservoir, but if there are any flaws with this, or one of you knows of a better route please tell.

And lastly the part im most confused on would be reservoirs, which is a good brand? or more specifically a good reservoir itself? I was looking at the "xspc dual bay reservoir" but i have no idea if this is a good type of reservoir or if it will be sufficient for my loop.

Thank you all for your help so far, i really appreciate it
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Reservoirs are basically an aesthetic part. They serve little functionality. My new loop will not have a reservoir in it, instead I am adding a tube for the purpose of filling because thats all I ever used my res for, a port to add water to it. Also res's allow you to see the waterline which can be useful. I use an XSPC dual bay res in my current loop and it works perfectly and holds my pump in it, a swiftech MCP 355.

Black ice, XSPC, and swiftech are all good brands for rads. I have a black ice SR1 360 that i love and I just bought a XSPC RX240 for my updated loop.

I can't really say anything about the apogee XT, aside from "reviews say it performs well". I use an EK supreme HF and have had no problems and my cpu runs cool.

I recommend 1/2 inch ID 3/4 inch OD tubing, as it's what I use. Are you leaning towards compression fittings or just barbs? If you get compression you need to match OD and ID of the tubing to the fitting. Barbs only need to match the ID of the tubing.

-Skuloth
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post #7 of 9
you really don't even need two 360s why cause the the processor you get can do like 4.0 or higher on air.
360 rad and a 240 is all you need.

360 top
240 bottom
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This is relevant to my interests.
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I was going to get the thermochill 1/2 id 3/4 od tubing, and was planning on getting the compression fittings in matching size. If reservoirs serve such little purpose then perhaps i will just get a smaller single bay res, given the haf x only has 4 bays total that would save me some room in the event i end up needing one more bay for a temp gauge or second disc drive.

Ill take a look at all the radiators once more and see what i come up with, but nice to know the parts i was eyeing aren't terrible.

thanks again for all the help, hopefully ill have some pics in a week or two to show my progress
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