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I hope by "Pro", they don't mean those guys that play CS:S. Hopefully they invite the big names from 1.6, like walle, nothing, forest, Spawn...etc They will know how to make the game competitive. But I do respect the fact that Valve want to make the game more diverse and tactical.

Valve get this Counter Strike game right. We don't need another CS:CZ or CS:S failure.
This. 1.6 pros >>>>>> Source pros. But to be fair, Valve couldn't invite current 1.6 pros to playtest because ESL qualifiers were last week, Asus Summer is going on right now, and eStars Tournament is next weekend. Still, it would have been nice to invite former 1.6 pros to playtest. n0thing and f0rest still play competitively, so they were probably busy practicing. n0thing plays for EG and f0rest is on SK.

Someone on HLTV.org suggested that they bring XeqtR in to playtest and someone else responded that the money system would get ****ed if he did .
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i like that ppl are nostalgic over 1.6, which really did change the game, and not for the better.
It's true that getting rid of awp quickswitch sucked, but 1.6 was still a very good competitive title. Definitely still miles ahead of Source in that respect.
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This. 1.6 pros.
I'm all for this, but edit out your swears bro.
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If only I was into FPS's right now.
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I'm thinking Valve's gonna make this a Free-To-Play thing with a few weapons to be purchased to use in the game itself..
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I can name a handful. I can also spend an hour naming games that have had severe issues/bugs/lack of support for PC.
name some made by valve.
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i like that ppl are nostalgic over 1.6, which really did change the game, and not for the better.
1.6 was actually a really good update, the deagle was insanely accurate to the point where you almost didn't even need to buy a rifle in 1.5. The galil and famas were nice additions, and yea the only down side to 1.6 was the awp delay. I don't really know if it needed to be changed. I was just frustrated that they couldn't fix the animations on the awp to match, i did it back in the day in about 5 mins. Open up milkshape change a few numbers and that was it. The riot shield was a joke, and made everyone questions valves intentions for competitive play, but i'd still play 1.6 over 1.5

As for free 2 play. I don't see valve doing this, they are making the next counter strike not an xbox arcade title. If they did do it, the only thing you'd have to pay for is visuals like skins, but that would take away from the competitive aspect so again, don't really think they're doing this.

They are catering to the consoles though. I read the whole Reddit post from one of the players. The buy menu is in a circle shape, so it's easy to use with an analogue stick. Which makes me really scared. Why doesn't valve look at starcraft 2s success on the PC? and of course counter-strikes success. It doesn't need to be console focused to pull in money. it's counter-strike don't piss off your consumers. With that said, valve hasn't made a bad multiplatform game yet just stay focused on PC.

They also said the gunplay needs a lot of work. Bullet spreads were random and not pre-defined. "The bullets were spread randomly in a circle instead of a square" They're trying to make all the guns viable. Everyones gun of choice at the playtest was the P90, because there was something wrong with the movement in the game which ruined peeking accuracy. He also said you couldn't tap the guns yet. It all sounded very rough, and it sounded like valve needed a lot of insight, and that those guys needed to spend more then 2 days there. (does anyone know how long they are spending there?)

I think valve is afraid to put the number 2 on it to be honest. It'll be a good game, but it wont be source or 1.6.
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name some made by valve.
tfc
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i am down for a new cs
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People complaining about the Source Engine you do realize they are constantly changing and updating it right? Portal 2 was based on the Source Engine.
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@ CS 1.6 vs CS:S debates. Valve apparently thinks the CS:S players are more important so...Quiet down.
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