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CPU (apu) http://www.canadacomputers.com/produ...item_id=040146

case FT03 (matx) http://www.silverstonetek.com/produc...d=291&area=usa

motherboard (must be matx)
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|F1A75-M PRO -> http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD...M1/F1A75M_PRO/
|A75MA-G55 -> http://us.msi.com/product/mb/A75MA-G55.html#?div=Detail
|GA-A75M-UD2H-> http://www.gigabyte.com/products/pro...px?pid=3928#sp
|A75 Pro4-M -> http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.as...Specifications
|i really wanted a black or green color mobo to go with my build but theres |no fm1 matx mobo thats black or green they are all blue
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SSD for games OZC Agility 3 60 gb (i know a lot of ppl have problems with this ssd but if anything happens i can always return it) and its the only fastest ssd thats under $90 http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...fCaJl0ydcXQbkQ

hard dive http://www.canadacomputers.com/produ...item_id=035755

RAM Kingston HyperX 8GB (i do editing and stuff) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc..._-20104266-L0A

cpu cooler http://www.techpowerup.com/124998/Th...PU_Cooler.html if it doesnt fit ill return it and get something different

Power Supply Seasonic 560W (560w just in case i want to upgrade to a high end gpu) i already have this psu so i cant change it http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...easonic%20560W

slot loading slim optical drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827106358 (only type of dive that works with the case)

-wireless network card for internet (dont know what one to get)
-sound card for MUSIC (dont know what one to get))
-HDTV tuner card thingy (dont know what one to get)

GREEN FTW cable sleeves with green LED fans

OS Fedora 15 i dont think everything works with that.i might buy my friends windows 7 (he gets them from his school for like $15)

games i play
-counter strike 1.6, maple story, and diablo 3 if it ever comes out. the APU will run these games no problem

what do u guys think of this build?
Edited by NatPC - 8/14/11 at 8:54pm
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post #2 of 17
why not go for a true htpc case like this
your apu/cpu should be able to handle 720p or 1024x768 no problem, let alone 800x600 fine.
ssd and ram seem like a good idea; watercooling may be a bit much for an apu/cpu that's not designed for overclocking, just my opinion.
500w+ psu may be overkill, without a dedicated gpu you may not need something so powerful, this

also choose a good ssd like this

EDIT: as per cooling i've heard, not from experience that Llano chips are very efficient, ie. less than 1.3v for regular usage. you could go for a basic aftermarket or stock cpu cooler if you don't plan to overclock or use it for folding etc.
Edited by eh_uh_um - 8/12/11 at 11:23pm
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post #3 of 17
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why not go for a true htpc case like this
your apu/cpu should be able to handle 720p or 1024x768 no problem, let alone 800x600 fine.
ssd and ram seem like a good idea; watercooling may be a bit much for an apu/cpu that's not designed for overclocking, just my opinion.
500w+ psu may be overkill, without a dedicated gpu you may not need something so powerful, this

also choose a good ssd like this

EDIT: as per cooling i've heard, not from experience that Llano chips are very efficient, ie. less than 1.3v for regular usage. you could go for a basic aftermarket or stock cpu cooler if you don't plan to overclock or use it for folding etc.
i have the power supply at home so i cant change it and the power supply u picked is not modular and the case psu is not modular so it wont look good inside (im really into the way things look nice inside the case even tho u cant see inside) and like i said maybe a few years later i'll upgrade the pc so i wont need more power if i have 560w i might upgrade to a video card who knows (case can hold up to 13.7" gpu). and the ssd the one i picked is WAYYY better its 2x faster then the one u picked and its cheaper. the apu can run games like crysis 2 with medium setting 1920x1080p
man just read all of my stuff above >< also i will be overclocking the apu
Edited by NatPC - 8/13/11 at 12:08am
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post #4 of 17
Go even smaller (price match to here)
And save your cash in the process as well. The included 275W PSU will run the APU fine even with OC, because the APU is so power efficient. You will be able to use that Seasonic 560W (much better than GS600) in your sig rig.

I'm curious how you're getting that RAM even though it's Newegg.com and you're in Toronto. The price for that kit on Newegg.ca is much higher.
NCIX on the other hand - which has THREE stores in the greater Toronto area - has a G.Skill Ripjaws X kit with same specs (2x4GB DDR3-1600 CL9 and lower 1.5V also) for $52 - picked up locally. If canadacomputers is closer to you, you will likely be able to price match

A silver arrow is ridiculous, especially considering most HTPCs are small form factor. The A8 APU runs very cool under the stock cooler, can be undervolted significantly, or can be overclocked at the same voltage on the stock cooler while staying capably cool. You won't be able to overclock the APU far enough to the point where an aftermarket cooler will be necessary either.
Edited by xd_1771 - 8/13/11 at 12:37am
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Go even smaller (price match to here)
And save your cash in the process as well. The included 275W PSU will run the APU fine even with OC, because the APU is so power efficient. You will be able to use that Seasonic 560W (much better than GS600) in your sig rig.

I'm curious how you're getting that RAM even though it's Newegg.com and you're in Toronto. The price for that kit on Newegg.ca is much higher.
NCIX on the other hand - which has THREE stores in the greater Toronto area - has a G.Skill Ripjaws X kit with same specs (2x4GB DDR3-1600 CL9 and lower 1.5V also) for $52 - picked up locally. If canadacomputers is closer to you, you will likely be able to price match

A silver arrow is ridiculous, especially considering most HTPCs are small form factor. The A8 APU runs very cool under the stock cooler, can be undervolted significantly, or can be overclocked at the same voltage on the stock cooler while staying capably cool. You won't be able to overclock the APU far enough to the point where an aftermarket cooler will be necessary either.
WOOOO that case is soo sick!! oh man but wait i got the psu in the mail a few days ago so i really dont want to take it back and can the psu fit in that case u linked?
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Unfortunately it will not fit in that small case, but that PSU will make a very, very good upgrade from your Corsair GS600W.
Such a high cost PSU would be a waste to be honest. For extra $100 or more you are getting what, 5-10% more efficiency during load, which makes so little difference when it comes to your power bill. And since the A8 APU will not even use 1/5th of that PSUs power (honestly I would trust the A8 at stock on my 220W Delta small form factor PSU) it makes no difference having all that power available. You should have saved your beforehand cash, esp. considering the purpose of this HTPC is only 1080p playback and those games. No need to go overkill with parts; balance the items with each other and with your budget. The likelihood is that you will not need 8GB of RAM either, unless you plan to run VMs or video edit on this PC (in which case I would recommend the AM3+ platform instead for more core expandability).

I have the Apex case I linked to you. In fact I own two: one the particular Apex case, and one its sister the Antec Minuet 350, from which the Apex case is directly derived from (The Minuet was hailed as one of the best small form factor cases before). Many of the PCs in my house (apart from sig Hexagonal) are small form factor. Because again, it is small form factor, it will take up a significantly less space than the Silverstone trashcan sized case you linked, while not resulting in any performance or reliability sacrifice.

I use an HX520 PSU with my PC, having downgraded from a 650W 1 month ago because 1. I got the HX520 for cheap and 2. I will never use more than a single graphics card. I resold the 650W at a profit.

Trust me, you are wasting your cash. My estimate is that your PC cost between $900 and $1000. you can build a reliable A8 PC with the same performance specs (incl. SSD) for about $600 - while a more balanced PC for your needs will cost between $400 & $500. The PC would take up much less desk space and provide reliable operation. You can buy two within the same budget you outlined.
Edited by xd_1771 - 8/13/11 at 1:16am
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Unfortunately it will not fit in that small case, but that PSU will make a very, very good upgrade from your Corsair GS600W.
Such a high cost PSU would be a waste to be honest. For extra $100 or more you are getting what, 5-10% more efficiency during load, which makes so little difference when it comes to your power bill. And since the A8 APU will not even use 1/5th of that PSUs power (honestly I would trust the A8 at stock on my 220W Delta small form factor PSU) it makes no difference having all that power available. You should have saved your beforehand cash, esp. considering the purpose of this HTPC is only 1080p playback and those games. No need to go overkill with parts; balance the items with each other and with your budget. The likelihood is that you will not need 8GB of RAM either, unless you plan to run VMs or video edit on this PC (in which case I would recommend the AM3+ platform instead for more core expandability).

I have the Apex case I linked to you. In fact I own two: one the particular Apex case, and one its sister the Antec Minuet 350, from which the Apex case is directly derived from (The Minuet was hailed as one of the best small form factor cases before). Many of the PCs in my house (apart from sig Hexagonal) are small form factor. Because again, it is small form factor, it will take up a significantly less space than the Silverstone trashcan sized case you linked, while not resulting in any performance or reliability sacrifice.

I use an HX520 PSU with my PC, having downgraded from a 650W 1 month ago because 1. I got the HX520 for cheap and 2. I will never use more than a single graphics card. I resold the 650W at a profit.

Trust me, you are wasting your cash. My estimate is that your PC cost between $900 and $1000. you can build a reliable A8 PC with the same performance specs (incl. SSD) for about $600 - while a more balanced PC for your needs will cost between $400 & $500. The PC would take up much less desk space and provide reliable operation. You can buy two within the same budget you outlined.
ya i think tis gonna be around $900
im not gonna return the psu cuz i dont know how to send it back like ship it back >< and it was the only good and cool looking psu with modular and i was gonna get the 400w one but they had the 560w and it was only $10 more so why not get it and i really want that trashcan case it will match my white desk keyboard mouse and headset. im gonna need 8gb of ram cuz i want to do editing/ photoshop and stuff
man i dont kow why its gonna cost around $900-1000 man when i had the list for my build and i kept on changing things so it came up from $700 to $1000 god dam its only cost this much cuz i like getting cool looking things lol

im gonna have to get that non blue ray slim optical drive for liek $50 and not the $150 one lol and i will need to get a random cheap $10 harddive (still keeping the ssd) that should make the price a little lower
Edited by NatPC - 8/13/11 at 1:32am
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i like getting cool looking things lol
Geez I hate to be the one to say it but how old are you? I mean, EVERYBODY likes cool looking things but how ignorant can you be to purchase something solely on looks without doing any research? To top that off, you're using a case that has no windows so what's the point of "cool" looking parts anyways?
post #9 of 17
the apex cases are pretty nice
only thing is they take an itx psu

but the 275w is more than enough for most htpc builds

i used one for my nephew's pc, works great with a 785g board and x2 250
the case has room for a low profile gpu, but you may need to upgrade its psu for it
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Geez I hate to be the one to say it but how old are you? I mean, EVERYBODY likes cool looking things but how ignorant can you be to purchase something solely on looks without doing any research? To top that off, you're using a case that has no windows so what's the point of "cool" looking parts anyways?
actually i do a LOT of research and i might mod a window on the case and even if i dont everything inside still needs to look cool even tho no ones gonna see it lol
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