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Originally Posted by Starbomba View Post
it is optimized for quads, but even my i3 can run it just fine. As long as it can detect 4 threads it'll run good. Of course, with 4 true cores it'll run a bit better.
I am already consistently getting the magical number that is 60 in it..how much better can it get for me with a quad especially when i am using vsync?

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Originally Posted by Tarun View Post
what are u trying to prove ecnelitsep i understand that Intel makes abit better performing chip but at the cost of ur money u have that much u sent it a guy with lower budget wanting many features will go for amd what the point in it u cant get a motherboard which unleash core i3 full performance and u get a better motherboard almost like a 2 pcie slot motherboard with 4 dimm slot with proper basic overclocking features for 70 dollars whereas u have to pay the same and get a intel motherboard nothing much just 4 dimm slot and no oc features and a dual dimm slots AND we are talking about the core i3 2100 not the core i3 2120 its NOT available in India k another things i need to clarify
What he's trying to say is the op might be better of paying a slight premium(actually the 955 costs the same as the i3 if not more) so that he can have a hassle free experience if he's not too bothered with oc'ing. Also if he really wants to push that chip, he will probably have to spend on aftermarket cooling. Another sticking point is if his PSU is old/not up for it, an i3 has a better chance of running on it than the 955 as there's quite a bit of difference in the power consumption. Again money comes into the picture here. So your monetary reasons for going with AMD are kind of irrelevant if you want to OC and exploit all the features that you got at a cheaper rate. Take it from a guy who just recently had to consider these options - the reason i decided against AMD was not because i don't like messing around with my system, its because wanting to mess around would have eventually cost me more. As someone in this very thread suggested if i am not wrong that a 955 at 4GHz is equal to the i3 in gaming and getting there on stock cooling is rather difficult. Actually the 955+am3 mobo combo itself was costing me a shade more than the i3+h61 combo.

There's no unleashing the SB i3 as the oc'ing potential is next to non-existent. A basic H61 mobo costing around the same as an am3 one can run it like its supposed to/H67 if you need USB 3.0. Also i don't think there's any AM3 mobo with 2 pci-e slots for the price your are suggesting.

You also posted later saying you would like to know about an i3 combo within $220 to $250..well take a look at my system details..cost me around $200.


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Originally Posted by karthik316_1999 View Post
Even the lowest 1st gen i5 costs 10 k?
Somewhere in that range and availability might be a problem. Anyways just because they are last gen, doesn't mean they are suddenly weak and can be found dirt cheap - they are still quite capable chips plus they have the OC factor in their favor, something which the cheaper SB i5's don't.
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I did like your system config.. except that I would be settling with a 6770 against the 6850 & i'm looking for a P67 chipset..

Correct me if I'm wrong.. Also, pls. include any major differences that I'm missing bt. the chipsets..

H61 - No Oc'ing + No Quick Sync
H67 - No OC'ing but use of Quick Sync to encode H.264 videos
P67 - Can OC but no Quick Sync
Z68 - OC + Quick Sync

This being said.. Can you suggest me a good P67 mobo from Intel / Asus ? Such that.. if I feel the i3 2100 is under-performing way tooooo much in my quad core demanding games.. I can comfortably upgrade to an i3/i5/ivy bridge later..

Budget: Somewhere around the 130 $ line... ? (Prices in new egg are atleast 45 $ cheaper than my local price here..! so, I guess we must look at a mobo at 85-90 $.. if searching on new egg)

Edit: I've realized that P67 is not possible within my budget.. So, I've got to settle down with a H61/H67.. Whats the main difference between the H61 & h67 apart from the quick sync ?
Edited by karthik316_1999 - 8/14/11 at 6:40am
post #103 of 111
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Also i don't think there's any AM3 mobo with 2 pci-e slots for the price your are suggesting.
there have a look for urself here
post #104 of 111
maybe Intel Desktop Motherboard DH67VR can do my work i think what do u guys suggest me
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After much research, have come up with just these boards based on my feature (max.dimm & pci slots) & price ..

1. The Intel DH67CL with 4 pci slots, 4 dimm slots & usb 3.0 @ 120 $
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/...rd-dh67cl.html

2. Asus P8H67-M LX with 2 pci slots, 2 dimm slots & no usb 3.0 @ 135 $
http://in.asus.com/Motherboards/Inte...155/P8H67M_LX/

3. Asus P8H67-M LE with 2 pci slots, 2 dimm slots & usb 3.0 @ 142 $
http://in.asus.com/Motherboards/Inte...155/P8H67M_LE/

Thought the Intel boards would be costlier but surprisingly it appears a tad cheaper with better features.

Which one to opt, experts ?
Edited by karthik316_1999 - 8/14/11 at 9:12am
post #106 of 111
hi found some thing very interesting karthik here check this out

Jetway HI09-Z (z68) 7465 (theitdepot) 6800(lynx-india)

Jetway JHI08-LF(p67) 7245(lynx-india)

these are some of the cheapest p67 and z68 mobo around
and i am doubtful about myself because i can't help myself to oc my combo i may go with a amd rig what about u ??
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After much research, have come up with just these boards based on my feature (max.dimm & pci slots) & price ..
Grab ur self a Intel DH67CL thats a pretty decent buy for u !
Edited by Tarun - 8/14/11 at 3:25pm
post #107 of 111
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Originally Posted by karthik316_1999 View Post
I did like your system config.. except that I would be settling with a 6770 against the 6850 & i'm looking for a P67 chipset..

Correct me if I'm wrong.. Also, pls. include any major differences that I'm missing bt. the chipsets..

H61 - No Oc'ing + No Quick Sync
H67 - No OC'ing but use of Quick Sync to encode H.264 videos
P67 - Can OC but no Quick Sync
Z68 - OC + Quick Sync

This being said.. Can you suggest me a good P67 mobo from Intel / Asus ? Such that.. if I feel the i3 2100 is under-performing way tooooo much in my quad core demanding games.. I can comfortably upgrade to an i3/i5/ivy bridge later..

Budget: Somewhere around the 130 $ line... ? (Prices in new egg are atleast 45 $ cheaper than my local price here..! so, I guess we must look at a mobo at 85-90 $.. if searching on new egg)

Edit: I've realized that P67 is not possible within my budget.. So, I've got to settle down with a H61/H67.. Whats the main difference between the H61 & h67 apart from the quick sync ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_1155

If you think the i3 is under performing, you can upgrade to an i5 even on a H61/H67 but not an ivy bridge cpu as it needs a different chipset like it says on the wiki page. I think the Intel DH67BL is the cheapest H67 board i could find and that's around 5.5k and the Asus versions start at around 6. If i were you, i would get an H61 mobo and invest the extra cash on a better GPU.

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Originally Posted by Tarun View Post
there have a look for urself here
Why are you posting a Newegg link and simply converting $70 to around 3.1k and assuming that's what its going to cost you when you are buying in India? Didn't the OP just say one post before you how prices at newegg are at least $45 cheaper than his local prices? Is he buying from newegg? Are Foxconn mobo's readily available with everyone in India?
Edited by Nihilanth - 8/14/11 at 8:16pm
post #108 of 111
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Originally Posted by Nihilanth View Post
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_1155

If you think the i3 is under performing, you can upgrade to an i5 even on a H61/H67 but not an ivy bridge cpu as it needs a different chipset like it says on the wiki page.
So, the ivy bridge will not sit on an LGA 1155 ? Thought it was compatible.. that was the whole point of me going for a Intel setup now .... Are we very sure ?... i have to change to an amd if its this way....
post #109 of 111
hehehehe good luck for ur setup
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Originally Posted by karthik316_1999 View Post
So, the ivy bridge will not sit on an LGA 1155 ? Thought it was compatible.. that was the whole point of me going for a Intel setup now .... Are we very sure ?... i have to change to an amd if its this way....
Ivy bridge is a 1155 processor. The wiki page is incorrect
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