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The only thing i do not recommend is a 4+1 phase mobo for OCing. That can barely handle the quad by itself.
I have seen people ocing a 955 BE with a 4+1 phase mobo till 4ghz
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Okay.. something has struck me now.. This performance diff. in games between the 955 & the i3 2100 is clearly understood.
But, wont the fact that im going to be using a discrete GPU make a difference here ?! meaning.., isn't majority of the processing done by the GPU ?
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How exactly do I choose a mobo based on this 4+1 phase .. ? that is not mentioned in the specs alteast.. is this something to do with the 4/8 pin connector ?

Also, what are my mobo choices if im opting for the i3 ? (Choices in Intel / Asus for the above mentioned budget ?)

Lastly, i saw a suggestion above to get the 2500k.. are there better budget alternatives for the i3 2100 in my 130 US $ CPU budget ?
The phases on a mobo can be easily identified with the black squares right at the left or upside of the CPU socket, like on this photo (they're right by the side of the blue heatsink that say 1R2). It's a big matter for AMD processors since they're more power hungry than Intel. Intel can get away with fewer power phases in the low- and mid-range.

The i3 is a formidable chip, and with SB you cannot go wrong, unless you plan to sacrifice performance by going prevous-gen.

This is my i3 mobo recomemndation.

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I have seen people ocing a 955 BE with a 4+1 phase mobo till 4ghz
But how long does it last? I have unlocked to quad+OCed a PhII x2 in a 4-phase mobo (it was an AM2+, not even AM3), but that does not mean MOSFETS would love me forever (they were burning to the touch).

Plus, if OT does nto plan to OC, why the i5 2500k? The 2400 is the same performance, and it doesn't need absurd cooling. Plus, it's cheaper.

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Okay.. something has struck me now.. This performance diff. in games between the 955 & the i3 2100 is clearly understood.
But, wont the fact that im going to be using a discrete GPU make a difference here ?! meaning.., isn't majority of the processing done by the GPU ?
Yes, and no. Most games render the image on the GPU, but the AI, physics and a couple more things i can't recall are handled by the CPU. Also, there are the (bad) console ports, which are almost CPU-exclusive and care little about your GPU (GTA4 comes to mind).
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ASUS P8H67-M LX price here in india is RS.6100 and on newegg its $88.99 if u convert us dollar in India its around Rs.4000 but here in India u get it for Rs. 6100 things are not easy as in US buddy
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a Intel DH61WW will fit in his budget if he is going for i3 here check this out karthik
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but that does not mean MOSFETS would love me forever (they were burning to the touch).
buddy it is clear the u should have some cooling on ur MOSFETS when ever u use a motherboard which is not heatsinked
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Okay.. something has struck me now.. This performance diff. in games between the 955 & the i3 2100 is clearly understood.
But, wont the fact that im going to be using a discrete GPU make a difference here ?! meaning.., isn't majority of the processing done by the GPU ?
if he wants to get the max out of his gpu then he has to go for a z68, a 2500k cost 10800 INR and a 2400 costs around 10000 INR why would someone take a 2400 here in india and if karthik takes a 2400k then he has to take a z68 motherboard which costs him another 10000 INR or $222 and he has a budget of $80 for his mobo i guess
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Too bad that prices differ so much geographically..
@ starbomba..
tarun's right just checked the prices n the ASUS P8H67-M LX costs not less than 135 US $ here...
so, maybe you should suggest me something thats around 45 $ on new egg ! .. so as to match the local price here..

I'm basically looking for a mobo with atleast 3 pci slots & 4 Dimm's.. n the DH61ww has only 1 pci & 2 dimm slot's ..
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thats impossible karthik if u get one even in US u won't have 3 Pci E all running at x16 if u get a motherboard with 2 Pci E they will run at x16 when single and when crossfire one x16 and other x4 this will get a drastic change in ur gpu performance
here have a look at this article u will get a rough ideal http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...ng,2517-3.html
Edited by Tarun - 8/13/11 at 11:31am
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oops.. i meant the normal pci slot.. not the pci-e
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things are not easy as in US buddy
At least you guys have those things over there, overpriced as they are, but you have them

If i mention "Sandy Bridge" over here, all i get is faces. The most modern parts over here, not counting branded PCs, aree 1st gen i3, H61 mobos and 1-2 GB Kingston ValueRAM.

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I'm basically looking for a mobo with atleast 3 pci slots & 4 Dimm's.. n the DH61ww has only 1 pci & 2 dimm slot's ..
I'd look at some other manufacturers then. Biostar and Foxconn aren't too bad, but they are not the best either. I've had Biostar and Foxconn mobos on various PCs with different builds i've made for customers, and so far none have failed me (almost always they get fried by thunder, excessive heat or crappy PSU, but very few mobos wouldn't die because of that regardless of brand).

Asrock is another good brand in my book. Good performance (sometimes exceeding the big guys) and cheap prices are a nice combo.

MSI does fail on the lower end. Had 3 MSi boards (one is truly mine on my HTPC) and they're not-so-cheap, finicky, and for a true enthusiast on a budget, very limited. Plus their VRM's are made of fail (the horror list on the VRM Info thread is more than half made of MSI boards, and i've had an Intel mobo dying on me because of that)

Most mobos i just linked have 2 PCI slots, but unless you shell out a bit more, you won't get the 4 RAM slots. But a 2x2 GB set will cover you. 4 GB is the sweet spot for gaming and general computer usage, and 8 GB is the top. 12 GB will harm you more, unless you really plan to use them
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