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post #11 of 22
See how high you can get wit your current cooler and then reevaluate the need for water. IMO water makes sense only if you use a proper 240mm rad or bigger and use high voltages on the core. Air will go a long way especially on a sandy.
    
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A M2 holding me to 4.5 sounds good!

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post #13 of 22
Watercooling is another hobbie on top of a bobbie.

Our hobbie is computers, But when you see the temps when you run water for the first time you'll be amazed, And then the bug bites and then improving the loop and getting the temps even cooler takes over and that becomes another hobbie.
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post #14 of 22
For oveberclocking as asked, you need ln2.

Now for overclocking, you would see a nice boost on water. If you can afford a budget custom loop, go for it.

Unless you have good airflow and spacing between the cards, twin 6950s can get quite warm on air.
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post #15 of 22
Stick to Air unless you have the money to spend on it, then sure. But if you're not going extreme, I think you should be okay sticking to Air.

Like mentioned, your cards will get a little warm, even if you don't overclock them much they'll still get pretty warm anyways.
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post #16 of 22
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Would it be silly to watercool the cards but not the.cpu?

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post #17 of 22
everything that needed to be said has been said.
air is fine for your 2500k and radeon cards.
got money to burn? what is your monitor situation? multimonitor eyefinity?
post #18 of 22
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Originally Posted by 10halec View Post
What is considered super high for a 2500k and a 6950? Also ive heard horrible things about the H series.

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Super high for the 2500K would be anywhere from 4.5GHz-5+GHz depending on who you talk to. My chip is at 4.8 GHz and nowhere near slow enough for anything I throw at it.

What horrible things have you heard about the H series? It's a fantastic starting point for some VERY basic WC'ing. I have an H50 and it's been great at keeping my chip cool. The newer models are even better though.

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The Corsair units aren't very good at all. Don't even bother; people just get stuck on the hype and the fact that it's not a standard air cooler. They hear "water" and get all wet It's nowhere near good.

Stick to air for a lower end system; you can always have a much more silent system with a high performance, low noise fan on a good tower heatsink versus 3+ on a radiator - now with the GPU this is where it gets a bit more tricky. You'll need to look at the non-reference designs with larger more quiet fans or the GPU can get annoying pretty quick.
Again, the H-Series water coolers can perform just as well if not better than the higher end aircoolers and can in fact be MORE silent.

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Would it be silly to watercool the cards but not the.cpu?

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Not at all, keeping your CPU on a high end air cooler while WC'ing your cards wouldn't be a terrible choice. These SB chips really won't bottleneck anything even at stock speeds, but I still recommend overclocking to the 4.5GHz range to keep your chip cool and boost frames a bit. If you water cooled your cards you would get higher frames from just overclocking the hell out of those without any CPU bottleneck. It's definitely not conventional, as most people here just go all out, but I was considering doing this.

The other thing to consider is that with great air cooling (Thermalright Spitfire and similar), you can get the same great overclock out of your GPU for a bit more. Granted that you are going for dual GPUs, you still may be able to find a great solution that is cheaper than water cooling. I have the spitfire and VRM-R5 on my 5870 and I've maxed the voltage and overclock with very safe temps.
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post #19 of 22
In my honest opinion, a good majority of water-coolers don't "need" their liquid-setups; it's more for the building hobby/challenge than for the performance boost. At least, that's how it was for me.

I suggest you stick with air-cooling (and try folding!). When you're not satisfied some time from now and desire a new challenge, give water-cooling a try.

You really can't go wrong
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I'm hoping that the spreadsheet in my Sandy Stable Club could help you decide, obviously ambient temps make a difference but it should help you understand how some of the coolers are performing, both air and under water. It has reference for overclocking, voltage, temperature and cooling. Link can be found in my sig.

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