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Keep in mind that even if all 8 cores aren't being used, there's still 2MB of L2 cache per module. If only one core in that module's being used, it's got a ton of resources at its disposal.
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Originally Posted by xd_1771 View Post
A lot of apps will use the 8 cores, including video editing which I do on my PC. I am interested in the 8 core model.

Gamers may be more interested at the lower cost 4 core model or 6 core model.
I've seen this a lot and historically this has been the case, however new games that are in production, such as battlefield 3 are being designed with modern CPUs in mind. They're migrating to a more CPU intensive style so that consoles running mature graphics hardware can deliver competitive framerates. This is especially the case with the PS3 since its Cell proccessor is so well suited to parallel proccessing.

I have no hard evidence to support this, but i did see a slide (link or image forthcoming) from DICE regarding the FrostBite 2 engine alluding to using up to 16 threads.
    
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i5-2500k is a really good chip right now for gaming.

For video editing GPU acceleration is going to be more important than core count imo. Assuming you're using something that allows it like CS5.

On the encoding front if you're doing H.264 z68 is a great choice because an i5-2500k + Quick Sync will be stupid fast, quite a bit faster than say a 990x /w gpu acceleration from either AMD or Nvidia.

As far as gaming goes, there is really no way to know for sure. However Intel has had mainstream eight threaded cpus since the i7-920 and there are very few games out now that can take advantage of more than four cores outside of loading.


If I was going SB today I would get an i5-2500k and a Gen 3 z68 mobo with support for PCIe 3.0. I would also do it with the purpose of switching over to Ivy Bridge in Q1.

Bulldozer x8 should do very well in rendering and folding at home, that said I would be pleasantly surprised if it was better than a i5-2500k in gaming though.


Edit: This would be my board of choice, in fact I've been thinking about selling my p67 pro to grab it.


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asrock? no thanks
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Originally Posted by Neokolzia View Post
This is what ATI graphics cards are for, they excel much at doing repeated calculations of conversions, F@H, Bitcoin Mining. Etc =).
For the record, ATI graphics do not Excel at F@H, Bitcoin yes.

@OP the applications that will excel and make use of the cores are video editing, rendering F@H. Gaming on the other hand do not necessarily need more than 4 cores at the moment, in the future, yes.

By the time ALL games use 8 cores, something better will be out.
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The two 128-bit FPUs can come together and form one 256-bit FPU (either that or it's the other way around... I forget).

Were you thinking of that?
Yes. I have searched around a bit today and it is amazing just how little information is really out there on BD still. From the little information that seemed legit it sounds like the processors will be divided into 2 groups that share resources like math processors and cache memory (FPUs) and that the two FPUs can be combined to function as one wide bandwidth processor.
    
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Originally Posted by MadCatMk2 View Post
Eventually. However, past such amount of cores it's how many stuff you are doing at the same time - not how many cores a single application can use.

Edit: Oh yeah, my advice is not to upgrade at all actually. You already have an awesome quad.
That's some life saving advice. I pretty much only game so I don't think I'll be upgrading until maybe IVY afterall (unless there really is a need for BD).
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