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post #31 of 46
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Originally Posted by Raven Dizzle View Post
I'll say it the same way I say it to anyone else.

If you're a smart user, you can use MSE, and you'll be fine. You really don't need anything more than that if you're not a complete half-wit.
Than God that you got protection then
post #32 of 46
Sounds like you need:

Firefox: http://noscript.net/

Chrome has some noscript addons too, but since I use FF, you will have to search for them yourself. I think its called Notscript

Personally Noscript + Microsoft Security essentials is what I use. I don't even use a software firewall, as I have had more issues with firewalls, then with Avs, especially with boot time increases, and making my general internet experience a pain.

Need moar protection? Research Sandboxie and Virtual Box

Should block 99%, if you get infected, hardcore user error.
Edited by .:hybrid:. - 8/14/11 at 4:41am
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The idea that only people with poor browsing habits get infected is certainly a very dated one. I ask if getting loaded up with addware and spyware is considered infected? Is addware and spyware Malware? Spyware and addware steal your privacy and you get spyware and addware just by opening your browser,unless protective steps are taken.
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I agree with mbudden that safe browsing beats out anti-virus, truthfully firefox+no script beats any antivirus out there imo. Rarely do I ever run anti-virus and when I do, all it ever finds is false positives. It's not the limewire+bearshare days anymore where every file you download is infected.
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The days of common sense browsing without malware protection is over
http://www.marketwire.com/press-rele...as-1406925.htm
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Microsoft Security essentials + Malwarebytes is a great combo.
 
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I agree with mbudden that safe browsing beats out anti-virus, truthfully firefox+no script beats any antivirus out there imo. Rarely do I ever run anti-virus and when I do, all it ever finds is false positives. It's not the limewire+bearshare days anymore where every file you download is infected.

To confirm your theories what do you do... download AVG and run a SCAN?

LOL

NoScript is a great thing to mention and I do agree using it helps tremendously.

You guys keep saying MBAM but you don't pay for AV so I assume you all use the FREE version of MBAM that offers NO PROACTIVE/REALTIME protection?

So for realtime protection your only line of defense is MSE that scores horribly at 36% !!!

And Oracle is plugging constantly and Adobe just released a CRITICAL Shockwave Flash update 5 days ago that addressed a very serious hole. APSB11-21

Even with your noscript you could possibly be infect in this way.

And this prospect discussed in 2006 five years ago is frightening! ACPI OS Independent Rootkit loaded from EEPROM!
https://www.blackhat.com/presentatio...06-Heasman.pdf

Check flash version.

http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/

And realize the push installer is for EACH browser in other words you'll have to run it in firefox and well as iexplorer

Emerging Rootkit Technology amd that's 2008. Win 7 x64 is much more secure in this regard but I believe SMM OS Independent rootkits exist. (Sherri Sparks has a sexier smile than Joanna Rutkowska IMHO)

Reversing and Hooking BIOS SMI Handlers Override prefix flat 32 space AV technology couldn't even detect what is going on if malware is running in SMbus space and if it loads from BIOS EEPROM your really in trouble...

Using SMM for "Other Purposes"

Yeah yeah I know it's ICH-dependent...

Most BIOS have D_LCK bit set in SMRAM and some don't set it unless you set BIOS Administrator password.
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post #38 of 46
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To confirm your theories what do you do... download AVG and run a SCAN?

ROTFL

You guys keep saying MBAM but you don't pay for AV so I assume you all use the FREE version of MBAM that offers NO PROACTIVE/REALTIME protection?

So for realtime protection your only line of defense is MSE that scores horribly at 36% !!!

And Oracle is plugging constantly and Adobe just released a CRITICAL Shockwave Flash update 5 days ago that addressed a very serious hole. APSB11-21

Even with your noscript you could possibly be infect in this way.

And this prospect discussed in 2006 five years ago is frightening! ACPI OS Independent Rootkit loaded from EEPROM!
https://www.blackhat.com/presentatio...06-Heasman.pdf

Check flash version.

http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/

And realize the push installer is for EACH browser in other words you'll have to run it in firefox and well as iexplorer

Emerging Rootkit Technology amd that's 2008. Win 7 x64 is much more secure in this regard but I believe SMM OS Independent rootkits exist.

Reversing and Hooking BIOS SMI Handlers Override prefix flat 32 space AV technology couldn't even detect what is going on if malware is running in SMbus space and if it loads from BIOS EEPROM your really in trouble...

Using SMM for "Other Purposes"

Yeah yeah I know it's ICH-dependent...
Don't forget stuxnet. Rootkit on ICS systems with 4 zero days
post #39 of 46
I still maintain that no ordinary home use needs to pay for AV. MSE and MBAM(Yes the free one!), will keep you trucking no problem. Make sure windows upadate is alwasy on, get updates for firefox and it's plug ins when they come, and you'll be ok.

If you really want to go for extra protection, then Sophos Anti Rootkit will remove just about anything that MSE and MBAM miss. Plus, even if you do get infected with some sort of bug, and your system becomes unusable, then you need your Hirens/UBCD and you can use it to clean anything without the OS running, wich in most cases will remove any nasty since it can't block your AV software if it's not running.

More than that there really isn't much you can do.
post #40 of 46
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I still maintain that no ordinary home use needs to pay for AV. MSE and MBAM(Yes the free one!), will keep you trucking no problem. Make sure windows upadate is alwasy on, get updates for firefox and it's plug ins when they come, and you'll be ok.

If you really want to go for extra protection, then Sophos Anti Rootkit will remove just about anything that MSE and MBAM miss. Plus, even if you do get infected with some sort of bug, and your system becomes unusable, then you need your Hirens/UBCD and you can use it to clean anything without the OS running, wich in most cases will remove any nasty since it can't block your AV software if it's not running.

More than that there really isn't much you can do.
A av is a prevention not a cure. Sophos is the otherway around. Your data have already been compromised
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