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Hello

I appreciate you taking the time to read this over and look over my build - it means a lot to me. Please provide any and all feedback as to how I can better my build while it not costing me a fortune.

The parts I've chosen are:

Case:



CPU:
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition Thuban 3.3GHz, 3.7GHz Turbo 6 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDE00ZFBGRBOX

Motherboard:


Hard-drive:


RAM:
Kingston HyperX 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model KHX1600C9D3X1K2/8GX

Power Supply:

CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power Supply


DVD Burner:


Graphics Card:
Nvidia 9800GTX+ (I already own this and I want to keep using it - I know it sucks but whatever, I'll upgrade it later on.)

CPU Cooler:
Sunbeam CR-CCTF 120 mm Core-Contact Freezer CPU Cooler, free TX-2 Thermal Paste Included Inside


I'm going to be doing some gaming on it. For gaming, I'm likely just going to use PCSX2 to emulate PS2 games (gotta love those!) and from what I've heard, those depend more on the CPU than the GPU. It'll also be used for some personal use and yadda yadda yadda, I'm not going to bore you with all of it's uses!

I also intend to overclock the processor to 4.0 GHz and I've heard through many reviews and what-not that it's fairly easy to do for the 1100T, but I can't find any good tutorials on how to do it (I've never overclocked anything before).

I do intend to buy from newegg, but amazon.com seems like a viable alternative to me (for the same parts..) because I've always had excellent service with them.

If you guys could please recommend any alternatives (except the graphics card) please do so!

P.S. I don't intend to wait for the bulldozer processors, they don't spark my interests at all.

Updated on August 15 2011 due to new parts thanks to the help of xd_1771
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The 1100T is not worth it over the $170 1090T as they are both black edition processors. For a lower $150 you may even want to take on the 1055T, which will overclock to 4Ghz with the right motherboard (8+2 phase recommended) and the right memory (DDR3-1600 minimum).
At present a better motherboard choice would be the

for the same $115 shipped price. Even if you don't intend to wait for the FX processors, this motherboard is a better value.
Take this DDR3-1600 kit - it costs the same (well, $1 less)
DVD drives are expensive on Newegg. Take If that hard drive is the only one you are getting, swap it out for a faster 7200RPM hard drive. The F3 1TB is only $50 shipped after the GOFISH promo code on Superbiiz. They are a good store when it comes to shipping hard drives.
The TX 750 V2 is overpriced. This quality Rosewill XTreme unit will provide the same 750W capacity for a lower price of $75 shipped.
You will want aftermarket CPU cooling to hit 4Ghz. The Sunbeam Core Contact Freezer is a good choice for only about $21 shipped (cheaper than most other 120MM coolers).
I'm not sure what you think, but the NZXT H2 is a better buy for $90 shipped - there is a 15% off promo code on top of that.

Some may suggest LGA1155 platforms but I don't find that to be at all times the best choice for cash in this case considering you will be editing video on this PC, and will be only emulating PS2 games - in which case, the x6 makes for a great processor for the price.
Edited by xd_1771 - 8/13/11 at 12:51pm
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Have you thought about a PSU with less wattage that will still leave you plenty of room to upgrade and save you good money?
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Originally Posted by jagz View Post
Have you thought about a PSU with less wattage that will still leave you plenty of room to upgrade and save you good money?
Actually, this is a good suggestion. Your x6 with that 9800GTX+ will not require a very high wattage power supply. Even a 400-500W will do. The Rosewill Green 530W at $50, shipped, is a good choice.
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Originally Posted by xd_1771 View Post
The 1100T is not worth it over the $170 1090T as they are both black edition processors. For a lower $150 you may even want to take on the 1055T, which will overclock to 4Ghz with the right motherboard (8+2 phase recommended) and the right memory (DDR3-1600 minimum).
At present a better motherboard choice would be the GA-970A-UD3 for the same $115 shipped price. Even if you don't intend to wait for the FX processors, this motherboard is a better value.
Take this DDR3-1600 kit - it costs the same (well, $1 less)
DVD drives are expensive on Newegg. Take this one for $20 shipped on Amazon
If that hard drive is the only one you are getting, swap it out for a faster 7200RPM hard drive. The F3 1TB is only $50 shipped after the GOFISH promo code on Superbiiz. They are a good store when it comes to shipping hard drives.
The TX 750 V2 is overpriced. This quality Rosewill XTreme unit will provide the same 750W capacity for a lower price of $75 shipped.
You will want aftermarket CPU cooling to hit 4Ghz. The Sunbeam Core Contact Freezer is a good choice for only about $21 shipped (cheaper than most other 120MM coolers).
I'm not sure what you think, but the NZXT H2 is a better buy for $90 shipped - there is a 15% off promo code on top of that.

Some may suggest LGA1155 platforms but I don't find that to be at all times the best choice for cash in this case considering you will be editing video on this PC, and will be only emulating PS2 games - in which case, the x6 makes for a great processor for the price.
What's the difference in overclocking the 1090T AND THE 1100T, I've been hearing a lot of rumors that the 1090T is harder to overclock and since this will be my first time doing so, I don't want to mess up. If possible, could you provide me with a guide on how to upgrade either? The turbo seems pointless to me on 1100T as I'll get it up to 4.0 Ghz anyway - oh and I heard the 1090T has more problems as well at 4.0 Ghz - is that true?

The motherboard you suggested is amazing! I'm definitely replacing that, but the memory I was thinking of going with
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL because I've heard better things about G.SKILL than Kingston.

The hard-drive suggested is also great along with the burner! Both notable changes that I shall make. I understand the TX 750 V2 is a little over-priced, but I heard that's its more reliable and based on what I've learned going over this forum - I don't want to cheap out on the power supply.

Why do I need an aftermarket cooler? Are they really useful? I'm not sure how to install one either :|

Also, the NZXT H2 looks really ugly to me - I want something flashy

Also, I do intend to upgrade the graphics card to a 6870 in the near future (likely around December) which is why I need the 750W instead of a 500W..
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There's little to no difference. Both have unlocked multi and similar OC-ability. Heck, my 1055T is managing better load voltages than 1090Ts out there.

RAM brand doesn't really matter, most or all RAM companies provide a lifetime warranty. Kingston is actually one of the world's largest and most trusted (more so than G.Skill, just not usually from a performance perspective). Up to you if you want to spend the extra, but you don't have to.

The PSU I can understand if you were going to be looking at a 750W either way, but a 750W would be overkill when a quality 400W could power the 9800GTX + Phenom II x6 combo. The 530W I suggested at $50 is a price performance king, and is recommended by most OCN PSU experts. A 530W will also power that 1090T + (single) 6870 fine. The 6870 is very power efficient, in fact it should consume no more power than the (older and less power efficient) 9800GTX+. 750W I usually reserve in my suggestions for those who want to go dual GPU. Of course, if you want to do it the overkill way, and are willing to pay a cost that could be used towards another HDD or solid state drive perhaps, that's also fine.

An aftermarket CPU cooler allows your CPU to run cooler so it can be overclocked further. Stock coolers don't usually allow you to overclock very far.

I like the sleek look of the H2 or P180 or such cases... up to you I guess if you like a case with style, I might suggest the Lancool K58W for $65 shipped. It costs less but is a great case with high quality, GREAT cooling potential, side window, and mostly toolless installation.
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Thanks a bunch xd_1771! I updated the main post with the new parts I'm going to use.
I have a few questions though:

Are all the parts compatible? I checked them to the best of my ability but I'm still not 100% sure - a second opinion would bring me much relief.

Is the cooler efficient for pushing the processor up to 4.0Ghz? I'll spend more money if I have to on it - I don't want it to oeverheat or anything.

I've heard mixed reviews about the hard-drive I've chosen and the case as well - anyone know a better case to use (preferably one with LEDs) or any experience they've had with the hard-drive? Thanks

Oh, and once again - THANK YOU XD_1771

Edit:
I realized that 6870's aren't that expensive, and probably around winter I might be able to afford 2 - so I think the 750W PSU is something I want to keep.
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The heatsink performs slightly better than a 212+ and with the right case airflow should take your CPU cooler up to 4Ghz. 55C is a good temp to aim for, but anything within 62C is fine. Everything should be compatible. The 750W is a good investment if you intend to spend on 2 6870s. I still don't think the 1090T is worth it over the 1100T, especially with the FX series multicore CPU not far away. You do have the option of getting another case, then adding LEDs afterwards by purchasing additional LED light strips and/or fans... might end up cheaper depending.
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The heatsink performs slightly better than a 212+ and with the right case airflow should take your CPU cooler up to 4Ghz. 55C is a good temp to aim for, but anything within 62C is fine. Everything should be compatible. The 750W is a good investment if you intend to spend on 2 6870s. I still don't think the 1090T is worth it over the 1100T, especially with the FX series multicore CPU not far away. You do have the option of getting another case, then adding LEDs afterwards by purchasing additional LED light strips and/or fans... might end up cheaper depending.
You sir, are my hero.

Could you recommend me the best case for less than $120 (if its not too much trouble) with good air flow and lots of room? I don't really care anymore about the LED lighting or whatever - like you said I can add them later if I really want too.

Is the hard-drive a good one to use? Or is their a better one for around the same price (more reliable)

Once again, thank you so much!
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You sir, are my hero.

Could you recommend me the best case for less than $120 (if its not too much trouble) with good air flow and lots of room? I don't really care anymore about the LED lighting or whatever - like you said I can add them later if I really want too.

Is the hard-drive a good one to use? Or is their a better one for around the same price (more reliable)

Once again, thank you so much!
the samsung f3 is a great quality drive. And they are quite fast.



NZXT phantom (a bit over budget...)
Edited by LuckySe7ens - 8/15/11 at 5:45pm
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