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So I'm thinking about a 6950 2gb version. I'm not sure what brand yet...but I know its gonna be the 2gb version for sure...1gb is just out of the picture since I'm running high resolution

I'm just wondering if the new generation of 6950's, the ones that can't be unlocked and dual BIOS, are these cards still competitive? Do they still offer great scaling in cross fire? How about overclocking potential? Does it offer voltage control?

I just see so many people putting down new 6950's and saying old 6950 ftw...is it just because of the unlock? I mean lets assume you put both the new version and old version head to head....but you kept both clocks the same, would they perform the same? Or did AMD nerf the newer cards?
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Yes they're fine. Unlocking offers hardly any increase in performance, if you get a card with a good cooler and VRM the overclock will be more valuable than a shoddy reference card that can be unlocked.
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There's nothing wrong with them at all. Stock for stock, the 6950 is like 1-5% slower than the 6970. Both overclock to roughly the same speeds. You're taking a small performance hit by going with the 6950 instead of the 6970 (small).

Honestly, you won't go wrong with the 6950, unlock or not. Never buy one, just for the sheer luck of an unlock. If it unlocks it does, and you get free performance that way. If it doesn't...oh well! You bought a 6950, not a 6970.
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Ya they are great
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thats good to hear guys!

I just been weary of buying the new 6950's because of how AMD saw the huge bang for the buck it gets...and nerfed it on the revised 6950...but good to know its still just as capable

So would you guys recommend 6950 twin frozer 2 or 3? Are the TF3's that much better? worth the extra cost?

Oh yeah one more question, I seriously can't find any 6970's in stock anywhere...its like almost sold out on new egg....is AMD planning to come out with new hardware soon? 7000 series?
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thats good to hear guys!

I just been weary of buying the new 6950's because of how AMD saw the huge bang for the buck it gets...and nerfed it on the revised 6950...but good to know its still just as capable

So would you guys recommend 6950 twin frozer 2 or 3? Are the TF3's that much better? worth the extra cost?

Oh yeah one more question, I seriously can't find any 6970's in stock anywhere...its like almost sold out on new egg....is AMD planning to come out with new hardware soon? 7000 series?
Very soon yes. I would wait if i was you
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thats good to hear guys!

I just been weary of buying the new 6950's because of how AMD saw the huge bang for the buck it gets...and nerfed it on the revised 6950...but good to know its still just as capable

So would you guys recommend 6950 twin frozer 2 or 3? Are the TF3's that much better? worth the extra cost?

Oh yeah one more question, I seriously can't find any 6970's in stock anywhere...its like almost sold out on new egg....is AMD planning to come out with new hardware soon? 7000 series?
Get the TFIIIs, because those actually unlock a majority of the time. (97%)

MSI even released a statement saying they can be unlocked, as long as you use their custom BIOS.

http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages...locking,1.html
Edited by pangolinman - 8/14/11 at 1:28am
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thats good to hear guys!

I just been weary of buying the new 6950's because of how AMD saw the huge bang for the buck it gets...and nerfed it on the revised 6950...but good to know its still just as capable

So would you guys recommend 6950 twin frozer 2 or 3? Are the TF3's that much better? worth the extra cost?

Oh yeah one more question, I seriously can't find any 6970's in stock anywhere...its like almost sold out on new egg....is AMD planning to come out with new hardware soon? 7000 series?
Twin Frozr 2 is reference, 3 is non reference (last time I checked). I'd pick whichever is cheaper, they're both good cards honestly.

No, the 6970's aren't EOL. They're probably just out of stock, it happens. Try to find a HD6990, I dare you....

The HD7xxx series is RUMORED to be out around December, with the enthusiast cards coming out early next year (same time frame they've always used). So no, the HD7xxx series aren't coming out yet. There's not even any sort of confirmation yet for ANY specs or release date on them.
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Get the TFIIIs, because those actually unlock a majority of the time.

MSI even released a statement saying they can be unlocked, as long as you use their custom BIOS.

http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages...locking,1.html
Never heard of that. MSi is awesome when it comes to graphics. Get a 6950 or wait for the 7000 series gpus.
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Twin Frozr 2 is reference, 3 is non reference (last time I checked). I'd pick whichever is cheaper, they're both good cards honestly.

No, the 6970's aren't EOL. They're probably just out of stock, it happens. Try to find a HD6990, I dare you....

The HD7xxx series is RUMORED to be out around December, with the enthusiast cards coming out early next year (same time frame they've always used). So no, the HD7xxx series aren't coming out yet. There's not even any sort of confirmation yet for ANY specs or release date on them.
the TFII cards were also non-reference. (could not be unlocked either)

I own a "new generation" 6950. It performs fine, does 940MHz core just fine. Drives my 5304x1050 res
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