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post #1 of 49
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Just my 2 cents on this.

Considering following facts:
- Cancer, alzheimer,etc industry keeps billions of dollars flowing each day, making some people in the decision-making chairs very rich, and actually keeping a huge part our monetary system and economy working.
- Cancer etc related healthcare, pharmacy industry, and serving companies of these are giving work for MILLIONS of people world wide, each day.
- Healthcare and pharmacy industry is giving a good 15-20% of each modern countrys GDP. (waitaminute, if those industries are working well, does that not mean, they are selling more medicaments and treatments? That just means, the sicker a country is, the better the GDP grows... LOL?)
- Monetary interest is the ONLY REAL motivating point of our economy.

And you are working at home for free, wasting resources (?), to find a HEAL for cancer?
Or find just another half-working treatment, that will cost a lot of money for the patients?

Dont misunderstand me, sure it is a noble act, and the theoretical benefits are awesome, but... what if they REALLY will be able to heal it some day?

Considering just logical, sure, a lot of people healed, and happy, but all those billion dollar industries, will be useless, and destroyed, and additional millions of people without work. Consider the waste amount of vitamins, food additionals, medical centers, useless experimental cures for LOTS of money, and lots of HOPE, for lots of money... all that will be gone.

So whos interest is it, to actually really 100% HEAL those diseases? Yours? Maybe. But surely NONE of those people, who you Fold@Home for, or those industries, the univeristy does science for.

Maybe they already found a cure, but will never release it for everyones use. Maybe IF a cure ever gets out, and it ever comes to mass healing of people, they just have drop in their next man-made disease, where they can "work" on it for years... and let keep your mouth shout too with HELPING to find the cure... wich already exists, but there is no interest (yet) to release it. And the circle of pharma-industry just goes on-and-on.

Still no cure for AIDS? Since... 30-40 years? Anyone wondering why?
Because these industries earn LOTS of money with partially working therapy, medicaments, keeping the fruitful situation in tact forever.

Just cant get the tought away, that we are just "Folding" more MONEY for them... Why would they just eat their chicken, thats laying golden eggs? Doing "science" at these universities, is also just paid from the pharmacy industries. The actual noble scientific goal is just a side-effect, of the real MONETARY goal. Because thats how our system works. Right? What do you think? I think, there may be another sickness, that we need to heal, before we can address Cancer for example... The sickness of our monetary system...
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post #2 of 49
One could say the same thing about Gas companys. What will they do when cars and other things no longer need gas? They'll have to shutdown and find other jobs.
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post #3 of 49
First, if they find a cure, that would be great.
Second, they will sell the cure if they find it. But there a thousand different kinds of cancer, there won't be a single cure for all of them.
Third, even if they find cures for all kinds of cancer, there are still millions of other diseases that needs to be researched and cured. Doubt people will loose their jobs if we cure one disease.
Fourth, I'd remove the tinfoil hat.
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post #4 of 49
So nobody should donate, or volunteer their time to fund cancer research any shape or form, in any country just because,

the significance of the gain from which aren't worth the effort/money/time?
post #5 of 49
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Originally Posted by ThePandaman View Post
One could say the same thing about Gas companys. What will they do when cars and other things no longer need gas? They'll have to shutdown and find other jobs.
And lets say you are the gas company. Going only after profit, like everyone else. You would do anything, to prevent this change, since it will cost you a lot of money and work, to migrate to other energy sources.
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post #6 of 49
You are 100% correct.

*shuts down folding rig after 2+ years of contributing*

Is Seti@home ok or is that a corporate shell as well? I guess bitcoin mining is definitely out of the question
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post #7 of 49
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First, if they find a cure, that would be great.
Second, they will sell the cure if they find it. But there a thousand different kinds of cancer, there won't be a single cure for all of them.
Third, even if they find cures for all kinds of cancer, there are still millions of other diseases that needs to be researched and cured. Doubt people will loose their jobs if we cure one disease.
Fourth, I'd remove the tinfoil hat.
Understanding the folding of proteins could cure a LOT of dieseases. Thats why they are doing it.
No one said, that it has no benefits to do that, just they are giving false hope for all those folders, because if they find the cure, there is NO interest in the industry, to actually release, or sell it...
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post #8 of 49
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You are 100% correct.

*shuts down folding rig after 2+ years of contributing*

Is Seti@home ok or is that a corporate shell as well? I guess bitcoin mining is definitely out of the question
No need to be sarcastic, instead you could think about it for a moment.
Goes SETI@HOME against any industry interests? No. Therefore, its not the same situation with that.
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post #9 of 49
Pfft, there's more evidence that cannabis oil can cure certain types of cancer, instead of wasting hundreds in electricity and contributing to global pollution. I'd rather plough the money people spend on their electricity bills into research like that.

But like the OP says, there's too much money in it. If a cure was found, it would be made insanely expensive. Otherwise, how are the pharmaceutical companies going to charge for all the other medication? And no, that's not a conspiracy theory. It's grounded in sound legality. Most pharmaceutical companies are PLC's or at least have investors. They, by law, have one and only one job to do and that's make a profit. If a company isn't making a profit for it's investors I.E. it purposely does something that will not generate profit and can't be justified, such as marketing (money spent, but will generate profit later) then they are in breach of agreement. Therefore, any pharmaceutical company that discovers this cure and distributes it freely (like they SHOULD do) they'd be in breach. Plus, there's no money in giving people a free cure. Ah, if only the discoverers would be Norwegian or another country that gives totally free healthcare and doesn't have ANY private healthcare.

Private healthcare is the very thing that's wrong with the world.
    
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post #10 of 49
There is a technical expression for this: Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Any social program has the potential to be exploited, and that potential will be realized to some degree. But letting people suffer because some other people might get something they don't need or deserve doesn't constitute doing the right thing to me.
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